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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistler View Post
    Probably best you do close this one it's starting to get silly.
    Why is what I stated silly? Is it not the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebadfx4 View Post
    Why is what I stated silly? Is it not the truth?
    It's certainly one perspective. I'll leave it at that.

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    while i admit its not smart to point a gun at cops . its also not smart to knock on a door at 1am without clearly identifying your self , cop or not . both parties screwed up and it cost a life

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    One day i'll tell you about me opening the door @ 4am with gun in hand and a cop was standing there. No bashing just facts.

    FWIW: So much can happen so fast, it comes down to reaction to a threat.
    I am not supporting or condemning the LE, as our family is still dealing with "reaction to threat"
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    What's the protocol for local police in dealing with a situation like this? Is there a defined procedure for not identifying yourself? If so what's the criteria? Just curious.

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    [MOD: I specifically warned NOT to make general cop-bashing comments that weren't directly in reference to this reported situation. Next one earns a time-out]
    "An individual is only entiteld to one's rights as long as one respects the rights of others."...R.F.

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    I'll leave it at both parties made dumb mistakes and a man lost his life because of said mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alxone View Post
    while i admit its not smart to point a gun at Turned out to be real cops . its also not smart to knock on a door at 1am without clearly identifying your self , cop or not . both parties screwed up and it cost a life
    FTFY


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    Just as with any other situation, there are instigators and responders.

    The instigators went to a mans door that had no reason to expect police, failed to announce themselves and took a mans life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebadfx4 View Post
    I'll leave it at both parties made dumb mistakes and a man lost his life because of said mistakes.
    I may have to disagree with you here. It appears that one party made a mistake and the other used bad judgement. Thats a pretty big difference.

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    I guess being L.E. myself, I tend to be bias. We'll agree to disagree.

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