Buying my first safe. Have questions.

[opie011]

i posted this a while back, but here it is again. you think your stuff is safe without a TL15 or TL30 safe? guess again, and if you dont bolt it down, and the correct orientation, it is easy to pry it open.

watch the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPUrqStiSTQ

Anything under a TL-15 is really just a container. Problem is, most TL-15 and TL-30 safes are too heavy to put in people's homes and quite pricey. If you can't buy a true safe, then these smaller residential containers need to be placed correctly limiting thiefs from breaking into it. One tip is to put the safe in a corner with the hinge side away from the side wall so that crow/prybars won't have as good of leverage when prying the door.

[opie011]

Here's one of the coolest vault doors I got to play with. 18" thick and about 10tons

[LiveFireArmory1]

I was looking at the Yukon from Browning at Sportsmans. It is the most solid safe I could find out there. Has great ratings. It goes for around $900 though. Since I got my FFL I decided against it and build at 250sq ft vault instead for about the same price. Now I am not limited and I still feel very secure considering I build secure rooms for a living.

[opie011]

I was looking at the Yukon from Browning at Sportsmans. It is the most solid safe I could find out there. Has great ratings. It goes for around $900 though. Since I got my FFL I decided against it and build at 250sq ft vault instead for about the same price. Now I am not limited and I still feel very secure considering I build secure rooms for a living.

What brand of door are you using?

[LiveFireArmory1]

That's Top Secret Dude!
just kidding, Sportsman's Crown Series VAULT DOORS

[theGinsue]

Let me echo what EVERYONE has said.Buy as big as you can afford (and move). A few hundered bucks can make a big difference. I had a big Liberty, sold it and built a 15x7 gun vault in the basement, complete with vault door.

If I may ask, how much did this cost?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/939...-black-logo-52

Buy enough socks for all your guns to keep them from getting knocked around.

+1. Socks protect from dings and scratches, help to keep moisture off the guns and buy your guns more time from a fire. A few years back I was talking to another customer at Sportsman Warehouse about safes and he showed me pictures of the gunsvhevhad in his safe when his house burnt down. The guns in socks looked good & he said they just needed a good cleaning but the guns that weren't in socks (the silicon impregnated ones made for guns) were totally destroyed. It sold me 100% on gun socks!

[babirl]

OP: Anything is better than nothing!

Heck, it's at least a deterrent to most of the scumbags/meth heads/gang bangers robbing/burglarizing around here... Harder is better than easier.

Save a bit more or just buy the best and then biggest you can now afford... Might have to prioritize. Definitely a big difference vs. laying around and as noted, ARs and scoped rifles are absolute space hogs.

B2

Welcome LiveFireArmory1! Always good to have some new FFL options in the area; hope all goes well for you.

Who is Opie011 associated with? (That vault door/vault/fake rock wall is likely worth more than I'll ever be...ETA: In a GOOD way.)

FWIW, I had a dickens of a time finding a local "real" safe/RSC dealer worth supporting in the Springs region once I decided to upgrade a bit; much less one that even wanted to be in a semi-competitive price for my puny private order... Work location and time precluded ability to drive all over/meet business hours. (Ended up w/ custom-order AMSEC BF6636 from "The Safe Place" and couldn't be happier. I had it locally installed... Per usual, it's already full!)

REGARDLESS, Definitely worth knowing some local, real safe pros. I've found some locals through this process that I'll recommend and support if nothing else for MOVING, maintenance and maybe accessories.

[relichunter]

You may want to wait until thanksgiving or Christmas to pick up a sale safe.

I picked this one up last Thanksgiving for $700 at Dicks. http://www.gearbuyer.com/products/fi...lock_safe.html

It is small enough to move up and down stairs - the door comes off easily. Has a water resisitance that has helped me control humidity and it has a fire rating too.

It is rated at 32 long guns and it really fits about 20-25 guns.

I've got two safes. I like the idea of having the guns split up so I have them in different parts of the house.

[JohnTRourke]

You may want to wait until thanksgiving or Christmas to pick up a sale safe.
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that's a good point
on Black Friday there are some AWESOME deals on safe's.

[SAnd]

I doubled the size of my safe using Rifle Rods. You can stack a lot more guns in the same size safe. They also make it easier to get to the guns in the back. You need to unstack less guns to get to the back.

http://www.storemoreguns.com/rifle-rods-3.html

Look at the pictures to see how they work. They show a dealer in Denver.

I also use the socks to protect the fancy guns I have.

I also advocate getting the biggest safe that will fit your circumstances.

Happy Hunting.