The Ban Stands

[clublights]

Why do they need an agenda? Or for that matter, why should they have to justify it to you?

Having said that, BSA has been placed in a no-win situation for years because pro-gay forces want to force them to accept homosexual leaders but they've had to pay millions out because of predatory attacks by homosexual pedophiles. Note the use here is talking about pedophiles who are homosexuals, NOT (as often claimed by the left) equating homosexuality with pedophilia.

The Portland council recently had to pay $15M over one of these cases. My guess is they tried to strike a balance by keeping notes on registered Scouters who were "suspect" but tried to keep the notes private so as not to hurt anyone with unproven allegations -- but the sheer fact they kept notes and didn't warn people (including the eventual victim) was used against them.

Good for BSA National for once -- as a long time Scouter, I was afraid this big review would be used to by guys like Stephenson to push a change in policy to meet the demands of the politically correct.

I don't see why the homosexual and atheist activitists don't just create a Gay and Atheist Youth organization of their own instead of continually harassing the BSA -- except that I believe those activists are more interested in legitimizing and promoting their own lifestyles and beliefs than in actually helping kids.

DING DING DING

+1

And a few comments on the BSA haters....admittedly bias as I am an Eagle.

Some of us were not lucky enough to have fathers that were into the outdoors thing. My pop was just not into it .. no fishing , no hunting no camping I went camping with my dad ONCE to the grand canyon and I'm pretty sure my uncle (his brother) forced him into it. My grandfather was a bit too old to be going backpacking in the back country or canoeing for 2 weeks down the green river. So I had scouting to turn to cuz I AM into those things ( well never been a hunter but all the other outdoorsy things ) Scouting taught me a lot of skills and life lessons I still use to this day
I went all the way from Cubs to Webelos to Eagle to Assistant Scoutmaster after I was 18 and still helped out my troop. I take pride in the fact that every time I go home to my parents I still see the church( which was also our meeting house) who's fence I rebuilt as my Eagle Project and take pride that 20 years later parts of it still stand ( the church has expanded a few times since then and has taken down sections of the fence for more building)

I had a really good Scouting "career" I did things others never get to.

I was charter member, and youngest member of the "official" Honor Guard for the Boulder Dam Area Council ( Las Vegas NV) I was technically below their cut off age but I impressed the adult council members so much that they brought me on anyways.( I was 11). We did all the parades, TV appearances, any where an Honor Guard was needed or desired for the Council. I still have the plaque that was given to each of us after that first year ( I was on it for 2.5 years till the Air Force moved us)

I went to Philmont Boy Scout Ranch
I was a patrol leader
I spent 2 weeks canoeing the Green River to the Colorado.
I made rank as fast as possible till Life and Eagle ( those took me longer.. HS football and girls became a huge distraction LOL)


Where else would I have gotten those kinds of experiences ?

[jplove71]

The Boy Scouts of America is a PRIVATE organization and they have the RIGHT to do this! The LGBT "community" is always asking for tolerance but yet they won't tolerate others beliefs.

[Ridge]

The Boy Scouts of America is a PRIVATE organization and they have the RIGHT to do this! The LGBT "community" is always asking for tolerance but yet they won't tolerate others beliefs.

What?

I'm pretty sure they have nothing against you being heterosexual...

[HBARleatherneck]

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[Rucker61]

so rucker is going to deprive his kids of Scouting, because they dont formally admit gays? what a moron.

Good thing they can still join the Marines.

[00tec]

What?

I'm pretty sure they have nothing against you being heterosexual...

But they have something against someone not wanting homosexuals in your club.

The scouts aren't saying you can't be a homo, just can't do it in the scouts.

Nobody is stopping them from creating their own group and not allowing straight people in...

[HBARleatherneck]

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[Rucker61]

But they have something against someone not wanting homosexuals in your club.

The scouts aren't saying you can't be a homo, just can't do it in the scouts.

Nobody is stopping them from creating their own group and not allowing straight people in...

Why is separation the answer? Why can't every kid be a scout? I've seen plenty of complaints about the exclusionary policy of minority organizations in this very forum, so why is it the answer now?

[00tec]

Why is separation the answer? Why can't every kid be a scout? I've seen plenty of complaints about the exclusionary policy of minority organizations in this very forum, so why is it the answer now?

So create a group that lets everyone in, I don't care. These groups seeking 'tolerance' need to get the fuck on and stop harassing a private organization.

What do you think the Black Panthers would say if I took my pale ass up there and tried to join? Their group, their belief, their right.

[Clint45]

Fancy colored "neckerchiefs" are clearly a gay fashion accessory . . . if they were serious about no gays in Scouting they'd get rid of the colored neckerchiefs.