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    Quote Originally Posted by airborneranger View Post
    It isn't happening, I promise you. The only time you have to register your weapons on post is if they are stored on post or if you bring them on post to shoot. A unit CANNOT make you register a weapon that is kept off post and you don't bring it on post.

    Some years ago, there was a S-2 form that claimed that if you lived within 50 miles of post you had to register you weapons. We squashed that one dead.

    If someone tries to tell you that you HAVE to register your off-post weapons, just swing on by the IG office and it will be handled.
    Roger. Thanks. Are you IG? If so, was my information correct regards to the NDAA prohibiting such actions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh7328 View Post
    Roger. Thanks. Are you IG? If so, was my information correct regards to the NDAA prohibiting such actions?
    Only for a few more days .

    I don't know about the NDAA but there was a time when the S2 bubbas were putting out bad info along with the PMO. None of it was cleared with legal. Once we fixed that, the unconstitutional registration of weapons ended.

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    It is prohibited that units at Ft Carson (or Army wide) collect info from your weapons that you keep off post. Unless you intend to bring them on post, there is no requirement in AR 190-11, appendix B to register your weapons on post or give any information about your off post weapons. That is unless you are under investigation for domestic violence, or your chain of command feels that you are a threat to yourself or others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabot_round View Post
    It is prohibited that units at Ft Carson (or Army wide) collect info from your weapons that you keep off post. Unless you intend to bring them on post, there is no requirement in AR 190-11, appendix B to register your weapons on post or give any information about your off post weapons. That is unless you are under investigation for domestic violence, or your chain of command feels that you are a threat to yourself or others.
    There was push about 3 years ago as said.
    Were you at Carson a couple years ago? They did a huge push to get all off-post private weapons registered on Ft. Carson too. Even if they were your spouses.
    I helped my boss at the time fill out over 20+ cards so he could register his "Off Post" weapons.

    It may not be that way today but it was just a short time ago. I also hear that some of the WTU solders have been asked to fill out the cards. but that seems to be case by case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    There was push about 3 years ago as said.

    I helped my boss at the time fill out over 20+ cards so he could register his "Off Post" weapons.

    It may not be that way today but it was just a short time ago. I also hear that some of the WTU solders have been asked to fill out the cards. but that seems to be case by case.
    Yup, I was asked to fill one out back in 09 when I first got to Carson. It was the BN S2 who tried to convince me to do it. It shouldn't be happening anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airborneranger View Post
    It isn't happening, I promise you. The only time you have to register your weapons on post is if they are stored on post or if you bring them on post to shoot. A unit CANNOT make you register a weapon that is kept off post and you don't bring it on post.

    Some years ago, there was a S-2 form that claimed that if you lived within 50 miles of post you had to register you weapons. We squashed that one dead.

    If someone tries to tell you that you HAVE to register your off-post weapons, just swing on by the IG office and it will be handled.
    Great memory Sir!

    There was a concerted push across the Department of the Army around 2009, but it wasn't initiated at all posts before the complaints went up to enough Congressmembers that DoD & DoA had to back off from this requirement. If any units attempt to make their troops do this, it will effectively end that persons career.

    Now, if a soldier is considered a possible risk for violent behavior, they can be ordered, under escort, to retrieve those firearms and turn them into the armory. But that's a whole different issue.

    [ETA: I type too slow. Jerry & AirborneRanger seem to have covered it all already.]
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    Back when Carson was under 7id that was the post policy that every E-5 and below had to store in arms room, and all were registered on post if you lived within 60 miles. It wasnt enforced often, unless you had by the book people.

    The Army is the most Anit-gun org out there.

    A few years ago soldiers at one of the Alaskan Posts were prohibited from carrying concealed without permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Great memory Sir!

    There was a concerted push across the Department of the Army around 2009, but it wasn't initiated at all posts before the complaints went up to enough Congressmembers that DoD & DoA had to back off from this requirement. If any units attempt to make their troops do this, it will effectively end that persons career.

    Now, if a soldier is considered a possible risk for violent behavior, they can be ordered, under escort, to retrieve those firearms and turn them into the armory. But that's a whole different issue.

    [ETA: I type too slow. Jerry & AirborneRanger seem to have covered it all already.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh7328 View Post
    Roger. Thanks. Are you IG? If so, was my information correct regards to the NDAA prohibiting such actions?
    http://www.usarak.army.mil/2eng/WEBS...m%20Policy.pdf

    Seems this mentioned the NDAA for FY11, to repeal the restriction of CC in Alaska that I just mentioned.
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