Mass shooting at Century 16 in Aurora

[GilpinGuy]

One day I would like to see headlines:

25 people with minor gunshot wounds...active shooter SMOKED by citizen legally carrying side arm.

To bad it wouldn't make national news. This is all so tragic. Thoughts go out to the families and friends.

Not quite that, but close.

[Mtn.man]

Perps can't read.

[Pacman89]

One day I would like to see headlines:

25 people with minor gunshot wounds...active shooter SMOKED by citizen legally carrying side arm.

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY with less wounded preferrably! thoughts and prayers to the victims families

[Mtn.man]

All in all this should not be shocking. If a person is intent on making himself famous (read mental issues) by killing innocent people, then why not seek out a place where there are large #'s unarmed where you can be in complete charge of the situation.

[SA Friday]

[MOD] Look people, lets self mod on this site and especially this thread. Its simple. This is the number one news story in this country and is going international. If you wouldn't want to see your post with your name next to it in print, don't post it.

[BuffCyclist]

Haven't seen this article posted yet, rather creepy once you get to the bottom of it with the neighbor and the music. Holmes' neighbors say he was "not friendly".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D182149

Last part of the story for those who can't click link:

Kaitlyn Fonzi said she lives in the apartment directly beneath the one where Holmes lived. She and her boyfriend were trying to go to sleep Thursday when, at midnight, techno music started blaring from upstairs.

“We heard very loud music coming so I walked upstairs and banged on the door,” Fonzi, a 20-year old biology student at the University of Colorado at Denver, said on Friday.

Fonzi said when she banged on the door, it rattled as if it were unlocked. "I contemplated poking my head in and saying, 'Yo, shut that off.'"

Instead, Fonzi said she went back downstairs and called a non-emergency police number. She said the bass-heavy music kept blasting, as if it was just one song on repeat, until it abruptly stopped at 1:00 a.m. She and her boyfriend figured the music had been on a timer.

Fonzi said they went to sleep, but were awoken by police an hour later and told to evacuate. When she learned about the shooting she said she was glad she hadn't poked her head in. Police later said Holmes' apartment had been filled with "various incendiary devices and trip wires."

Fonzi said she and her boyfriend had never had a problem with their upstairs neighbor before. "It was like nobody lived there," she said.

[DOC]

There are some things that are going to happen:
The hindsight is going to great.
The anti gun people are going to say if all guns were banned or heavily regulated more than the 20,000 laws that they have now weren't enough.
The pro gun people are going to say if there was a person there to shoot back this wouldn't have happened.
The press are not going to be able to count. There is going to be wild numbers flying around all over the place.
The press is going to blame the guns and quietly fade away from the whole story if it comes out he's a liberal.
I'm going to side with the pro gunner side because he is a coward and would have run away like a whipped dog if someone would have shot back. If not killed him and ended it sooner not getting him a chance to walk back to his car.
But the people with political agenda's are going into wide open throttle right now getting their pet projects ready.
The main thing to remember here is how to we keep this from happening again. Columbine will get thrown out here like its something we need reminded of. But something they won't say is that Columbine should have been the eye opening moment for stopping the moment for glory hungry little dick cowards to attack a group of unarmed people. Instead of getting bogged down in the back and forth fight over banning all guns and protecting our rights. In the end nothing productive gets done.
Even more tragic is the faux emotions from the people that don't care and are not effected by this but will use it to their own ends with laws and politics.
I feel for the families and survivors, because they are my brothers and sisters here in Colorado and it wounds me that this has happened again. Did anything that has happened since Columbine stopped these from happening? We need to step up self defense by carrying all the time, because the anti gunners are going to be stepping up the move to ban guns. Its never worked in the past but they have emotional rhetoric on their side and have a psychopathic indifference to use it if it helps their goals. It maybe to soon. I'm sorry but in the long run keeping the people who were hurt and preventing this from happening again by the deterrent of meeting a murderer on equal terms is going to be the best course of action. Not short term bad ideas with long term damage to the country.
This pisses me off.

[Chad4000]

Haven't seen this article posted yet, rather creepy once you get to the bottom of it with the neighbor and the music. Holmes' neighbors say he was "not friendly".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D182149

whoa.. you arent kidding....

[newracer]

That's not how it works newracer. The manufacturer has a list of all serial numbers, and to what FFL those were sold, then the paper trail begins. Each FFL keeps their own record of the firearms they sell and to whom and when.... When LE took possession of his guns, they can trace them from the manufacturer through the chain to the FFL. There is not a "registry" in Colorado. It's a pointless waste of tax payer money.

Exactly my point, there is not supposed to be a gun registry but effectively there is.

[Sawin]

Wouldn't the New Life Church shooting fit that description?

Yes, it's a great example. Things can turn out differently, even in the worst of conditions like this.... had a ccw holder been present and responded with defensive fire, I sincerely doubt there would have been any more damage than Holmes did himself. They could have only diverted attention to themselves, possibly allowing innocents to escape, or they may have been successful in stopping these murders sooner... Sadly we will never know. I just pray we don't lose the right to protect ourselves and family's over all of this.