the holmes case

[tmckay2]

Even if he had armor, even level iv, I gotta believe a pistol round from ten yards to the chest would still hurt like hell and maybe knock him wouldn't it? An untrained person like him id think it would at least scare the crap out of him

[Teufelhund]

Was it Rampage? I think it was a Uwe Boll crapfest.

Yes, that was it. Definitely a B flick, I only watched it because the story looked like it was something different than the usual. It did not go the way I expected it to.

[BuffCyclist]

What a ridiculous mock-up. I seriously doubt he stormed in there looking like Judge Dredd, but this kind of shit is created for entertainment value, not journalism.

By the way, this whole thing reminded me of a pretty disturbing movie (can't remember the name, sorry) I caught on Netflix several months ago, where a pretty bright, but psychotic kid executes a well-planned scheme to dress in body armor, arm himself to the teeth, and massacre most of an entire town. If you find this movie, be warned you will be very pissed off when you get to the end of it. In light of the recent and very similar event so close to home, I don't think I could watch it again.

It was called Rampage (2009). I saw it a while back on Netflix too and it pissed me off too. Didn't remember it until I saw the trailer again (after googling). Can't believe they ever made a movie like that, who would seriously go to the theaters to see it?

[jonny450r]

yeah I watched it and the feed was more annoying then anything trying to hear, but at least they're most likely going after the death penalty for this

This "PC civilized society" stuff sucks. There's no question that he did it, it's cut and dried. Guilty, no question about it. Why can't they just take his sorry ass somewhere and off him? This calls for an old-fashioned hanging from a wooden gallows at the town square. Noon, everybody be there for the picnic. I'll bring potato salad.

I'll bring the hotdogs and buns

[cfortune]

What a ridiculous mock-up. I seriously doubt he stormed in there looking like Judge Dredd, but this kind of shit is created for entertainment value, not journalism.

By the way, this whole thing reminded me of a pretty disturbing movie (can't remember the name, sorry) I caught on Netflix several months ago, where a pretty bright, but psychotic kid executes a well-planned scheme to dress in body armor, arm himself to the teeth, and massacre most of an entire town. If you find this movie, be warned you will be very pissed off when you get to the end of it. In light of the recent and very similar event so close to home, I don't think I could watch it again.

Yeah I caught that movie too. I believe it's called "Rampage" or something to the likes of that. *EDIT* Ronin beat me to it.

BTW, that Judge Dredd comment made me spit out my root beer.

[CrufflerSteve]

As long as the thread is moving towards culture this is an interesting angle. Kind of at right angles to the gun discussion.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...o-the-concept/
Batman Movies Don’t Kill. But They’re Friendly to the Concept

Steve

[rondog]

So, if "the alleged suspect" is entitled to rights of fair trial, appeals, yadda yadda, would a CCW holder taking him out on the spot be violating his rights to those things, and therefore be wrong? I mean, it's confusing. Seems like it would have been OK for someone to cap him on the spot in the act, but not after they catch him afterwards still armed and blood-spattered?

From what I've heard, he'd taken a shitload of Vicodin beforehand and was probably too loaded to shoot himself. That's probably why they caught him, he was too fucked up to decide whether to leave or not.

[Wiggity]

So, if "the alleged suspect" is entitled to rights of fair trial, appeals, yadda yadda, would a CCW holder taking him out on the spot be violating his rights to those things, and therefore be wrong? I mean, it's confusing. Seems like it would have been OK for someone to cap him on the spot in the act, but not after they catch him afterwards still armed and blood-spattered?

From what I've heard, he'd taken a shitload of Vicodin beforehand and was probably too loaded to shoot himself. That's probably why they caught him, he was too fucked up to decide whether to leave or not.

Where did you hear about the pain killers?

[rondog]

Where did you hear about the pain killers?

On one of the jillions of newscasts. Can't remember if I heard it, or the wife heard it and told me, but I "think" it was 1000mg of Vicodin, IIRC. Hell, I could be wrong, it's happened before once.

[Jamesonehr]

Even if he had armor, even level iv, I gotta believe a pistol round from ten yards to the chest would still hurt like hell and maybe knock him wouldn't it? An untrained person like him id think it would at least scare the crap out of him

Oh yeah it would. Buddy of mine back in the early days of the iraq war (OIF) was hit in the chest with a 9mm wearing level 4. Said it hurt like shit and cracked the plate. Would hurt less then wearing level 3A but a few good shots to the chest would either make him run or drop him due to injury from the impact forces. Bullet "proof" vests dont protect from the blunt forces just the bullet going through you. In some cases you would rather have the bullet put a hole in you then be stopped.