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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Oh, believe me, we're capable of doing BOTH around here

    lol.. yeah pretty much

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    What ever works for you. name calling is pointless. So i'm taking my ball & bat and going home.
    Boy am I sure glad someone like you wants to be the voice of gun owners.

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    I sent one to every single one of my representatives in congress...
    Including my state legislators.
    Recipients:
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    Mike Coffman (R-6)
    Mark Udall (D)
    Michael Bennet (D)
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    Cheri Gerou (R-25)
    Jeanne Nicholson (D-16)
    Subject: In light of the Aurora shooting
    Issue: Guns/weapons
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    Dear Colorado elected officials,
    While we all mourn the tragic and senseless loss of our fellow Coloradans and Americans after the tragic events of 7/20/2012, many questions are being raised. How could this have been prevented? How can we do better in the future? Where should we place the blame? But I hear so many asking these and other questions that I feel are wrong with the exception of the first. It has been the policy, and this is no secret, of many entertainment venues, mainly movie theaters, that weapons are not allowed. I understand the meaning behind this and as a concerned citizen I feel that this is disproportionate to reality. Most commonly, in our state as my experience has shown, there are many more responsible gun owners than there are criminals. I am not stating that a responsible concealed carry permit holder could have stopped this horrific rampage, but perhaps a little foresight would have prevented it from even taking place. There are plenty of statistics provided by think tanks and even our highest law enforcement agency, the FBI, that show that locations where there are more relaxed gun control laws there is less violent crime. How is this possible? Deterrence. In locales where criminals are aware that the innocent and honest person is allowed to carry a firearm legally they are less likely to commit violent crimes against them, especially if they do not know who is carrying. If theaters were known as "second amendment friendly zones" allowing the law-abiding citizen to carry their personal means of protection I honestly believe that Mr. Holmes would have at least taken a moment of pause before carrying out his horrible act. I implore you, as our elected representatives in the house and senate, to not give in to the uneducated constituents in their call for more gun control. I would expect it to be common sense that laws only limit those who are willing to follow them, and criminals will not care what the letter of the law states, hence them being criminals. In closing, I'm reminded of the quote by one of our greatest former presidents, Ronald Reagan: "If guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns." So, as a Colorado voter, I ask that you continue to make our state great and to not pass any more gun control legislation. More laws will not stop criminals from doing evil upon the innocent, they only tie the hands of the honest, law abiding citizen.
    Thank you for your time,
    Ryan C. Dxxxxxxx
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    Read there are more than 20,000 (or 300 depending on the source, still a lot) gun-related laws on the books, one new gun law or twenty new gun laws would not have prevented this tragedy. Further restricting the millions of law-abiding gun owners doesn't "fix" the problem and is not the answer. The evidence shows restrictive gun laws or lax gun laws are a minor contributor compared with the socio-economic factors predicating murder however violent crime rates are reduced where law-abiding citizens are armed.

    Quoted from another site comparing violent crime in various California cities:

    The desire to reduce murder is both understandable and laudable. The desire to find one simple cause, which can then be eliminated, is also understandable, though clearly absurd. But the evidence shows that lax gun laws alone are not a major factor -- and the range of murder rates in California suggests that the major factors are many, many times more powerful than lax gun laws.
    It is a fact that even complete bans on firearms do not prevent gun-related violence and in many cases result in a greater incidence of violent crime due the reduced deterrent.

    The facts are out there, we need to make sure our law makers know them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
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    If you are unable to form your own words to express outrage, maybe you should reevaluate your position on gun control, OR have Dudley do it for you. All i asked was if you have contacted a rep yet. Yes or No would have sufficed.


    My Name is Jim XXXXX
    While i as others across the country mourn the senseless killings at an Aurora Colorado movie theater, already cries of more gun control have been heard.
    Perhaps some of the people who want stricter regulations actually believe any kind of law will prevent a repeat of the Aurora massacre.
    I believe as others in our country the laws we have do enough already. Mr. Holmes (for lack of a better title) the shooter, Not alleged, but shooter committed numerous acts of violence against so many innocent people. He did so by planning his rampage months in advance. PREMEDITATED in his actions, he went forward that night intent on killing (MURDER) as many people as possible.
    Murder is oddly enough already a crime yet cries of Gun Control fill the air.
    Perhaps if we enacted stronger laws against murder this would not have happened.. Of course we know my last statement is ludicrous. Murder is illegal and yet it happens every day.
    Enact all the feel good laws you want, until there are strong repercussions for laws on the books now, nothing will deter the next murderer from committing a crime.

    Sincerely,
    Jim XXXXXXXXXXXXX 970-xxx-89xx
    Registered Voter


    Emailed Just thought you could step up (which you did) a lead a little. I am sure it has inspired.........

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