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    I'm going to put this plainly and simply- Stripper clips don't work with 10 round magazines! I buy most of my ammo for my AR as M855 5.56mm ball rounds from Federal. They come in an ammo can on stripper clips with the loading tool and it makes for loading my mags 100x faster and easier... if this goes through what happens if one of my PMAGs breaks? What if I want more? Fuck you stupid dems and your false thinking that this will fix anything.
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    You know what would be nice, a law that says you can't add unrelated legislation to a bill whos topic has nothing to do with bill's primary focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazin View Post
    You know what would be nice, a law that says you can't add unrelated legislation to a bill whos topic has nothing to do with bill's primary focus.
    Sentence would be life living next to a gun range, to watch the horror of freedom lovin fools having fun.
    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Haw haw haw?..

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    Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it looks to me like possession of a mag that can hold more than 10 rounds is illegal, not just the transfer.
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    did you guys see that shit?! 10 years for selling a freakin' magazine! AND my dumb ass brought my pmags to the stan with me, since we weren't going to be issued any, and I just read the part in there about not being able to bring mags into the states. Fuck me and the money I spent, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazin View Post
    You know what would be nice, a law that says you can't add unrelated legislation to a bill whos topic has nothing to do with bill's primary focus.
    I'm with you on this 100%. I don't know how we've allowed such an under-handed practice to persist.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it looks to me like possession of a mag that can hold more than 10 rounds is illegal, not just the transfer.
    That's exactly how it reads. It places restrictions on the transfer, possession, import, and manufacture (requires serial numbers for new mags) for anyone except government organizations.

    The mags you own before the bill is passed would be grandfathered in.

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    I sent to both as well, took me less than 3 minutes!


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    The cyber bill is a shitstorm to begin with. Add this and it is a veritable typhoon of diarrhea. Apparently they think they can accomplish more by lumping assaults on our Constitutionally guaranteed rights together...

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    Good Day,
    It has come to my attention that a rider to the pending cybersecurity bill has been added to restrict the possession, sale, and manufacture of magazines for semiautomatic firearms that hold more than 10 rounds. While I am against the initial bill as a poorly written piece of legislation that will egregiously abridge our Constitutionally guaranteed rights to freedom of speech and freedom of the press, the addition of this backdoor gun control measure is unconscionable. Magazine restrictions historically have had no effect on crime rates, and only affect those that abide by the law in the first place. Instead of placing onerous and unconstitutional burdens on law abiding gun enthusiasts, more effort should be concentrated on enforcement of the thousands of gun laws already on the books. Attempting to sidestep the legitimate legislative process on an issue that affects tens of millions of law abiding gun owners is reprehensible at best, and I respectfully request that you express your vigorous opposition.
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    Sent today:

    Good morning Mr Bennett,
    Current events in Colorado has caused quite the uproar in the political scene.
    While the event of late is most assuredly a tragedy what is almost as tragic is the pathetic knee jerk reaction of our elected officials, media and public figures.
    Do the above realize the ignorance and immaturity of placing blame of of a deranged individual on an inanimate object(s)? The voting public certainly do.
    The firearms and or magazines DID NOT commit this heinous act, rather a very sick individual did.
    As an enthusiast of the shooting sports I take an extremely dim view of any individual or organization who endorses or attempts to further infringe on the Rights of lawful firearms owners.
    When a tragic incident such as Aurora, Virginia Tech or Columbine occurs the first reaction is to blame an object, impose new laws and regulations in an attempt to change human behaviors.
    FAIL!
    All what is accomplished when such regulations are imposed is further infringing upon individuals that did not commit a crime.
    These people vote Mr Bennett.
    And they remember.
    Now I see that an attempt to ban magazines that hold more than 10 rounds is being attached to a "Cybersecurity Bill".
    I do not support politics as this, sneaking additional riders is reprehensible and underhanded.
    I strongly urge you NOT to support such a bill. If we are to have a discussion regarding firearms and the issues that surround potential further restrictions then have the courage to stand before your constituents and have the discussion.
    Along the same note, the United States is currently in discussion with the United Nations regarding international trade in small arms. This treaty has the potential to cause irreparable damage to the rights of lawful firearms owners within the United States.
    Let me remind you Mr Bennett, the United States is a sovereign nation.
    A sovereign nation with a Constitution.
    A Constitution that you, as an elected official swore an oath to uphold.
    Any endorsement of the above named treaty is a clear and present danger to the sovereignty of the United States.
    This borders on treason Mr Bennett. I believe the overwhelming majority of your constituents and citizens of the United States would view upon your endorsement of the above treaty and any other attempt to further restrict, ban or otherwise infringe upon the rights of lawful firearm owners and enthusiasts with great disfavor.
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    "I am absolutely terrified of all this gun control talk floating around lately. The UN Arms trade treaty... Obama's lip service on "AK47's on the streets"... the rider that was tacked onto the cyber bill... I want to let you know that I support absolutely NO more gun control in America, and will not support any official who thinks that the government can destroy my rights. I'm in Afghanistan right now and I fully expect to return home to a country that is just as safe and free as when I left it.
    Thanks,
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