senate Democraps adding high capacity mag ban to cyberbill.

[sniper7]

Yep Got the email as well. I think they are voting whether or not to add the amendment to the cyber security bill, not on the actual bill itself? maybe I a wrong

[Mr_RoP]

I do believe that Udall and Bennett voted for the UN Gun Control treaty. What do you think is going to happen here? IMHO they will vote for the addition of the rider and the mag cap laws. Just my non-educated 2 cents worth!

[josh7328]

Dear joshua,

At 5:30 PM eastern time today, Senate Democrats could attempt to force a vote on banning magazines used by sportsmen and for self-defense.

S.A. 2575, the Schumer "Magazine Ban" Amendment, could soon come to the floor of the U.S. Senate for an up or down vote. Anti-gun Senators are attempting to tack it onto the "Cybersecurity Act," S. 3414.

The Schumer "Magazine Ban" would give Barack Obama's anti-gun Attorney General Eric Holder power to pass new regulations without Congressional approval, include serial number stamping and anyone "found" with one could be facing ten years in prison.

Please call our Colorado U.S. Senators right now and tell them to vote "NO" on S. 3414 (Cybersecurity Act) and S.A. 2575 (The Schumer "Magazine Ban"):

Senator Michael Bennet: 202-224-5852

Senator Mark Udall: 202-224-5941

Thanks in advance for taking action.

For freedom,



Dudley Brown
Executive Director, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners

[lebru]

Looks like they want to restrict online and mail order ammo sales too

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/w...182934423.html

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...e-sale-of-ammo

What we really need is someone to run down a farmers market in an SUV and show people that you don't need a gun to cause mass murder...

[Clint45]

I cannot understand why hiding controversial amendments that have absolutely nothing to do with the Bill being voted on inside a 100+ page document that few Senators will even bother to have an assistant read can be legal . . . and why amendments passed into law through such a sneaky and underhanded method are not automatically nullified or made void as with any other unlawful clause.

If it was prohibited to sneak unrelated riders into Bills going before the Senate, things would be a lot simpler and people would have more trust in the Legislature. I would strongly support a Bill making it a federal felony to insert unrelated riders into Bills with the intent to have them passed into law without proper review.

[TS12000]

If it was prohibited to sneak unrelated riders into Bills going before the Senate, things would be a lot simpler and people would have more trust in the Legislature. I would strongly support a Bill making it a federal felony to insert unrelated riders into Bills with the intent to have them passed into law without proper review.

You are making a real common sense proposal there, too bad that bill would get it's throat cut before ever seeing a vote. Remember, those with power rarely if ever give it up willingly.

[Teufelhund]

It doesn't matter what the rules are; the Senate gets to write the rules by which they must operate, and then they completely disregard them. You could outlaw unrelated riders, and they would still sneak them in.

Something is seriously broken when a Senator feels the need to introduce a bill to require Senators to read a Bill before voting on it. /facepalm

Good on Senator Paul for calling them out on it.

[james_bond_007]

"High Capacity Mag / Drum Mag" Ban into Cyber Security Bill!


SEC. ll. PROHIBITION ON TRANSFER OR POSSESSION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
(a) DEFINITION.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after paragraph (29) the following:
‘‘(30) The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device’—
‘‘(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but
‘‘(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.’’.
(b) PROHIBITIONS.—Section 922 of such title is amended by inserting after subsection (u) the following:
‘‘(v)(1)(A)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
‘‘(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to the possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed within the United States on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.
‘‘(B) It shall be unlawful for any person to import or bring into the United States a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
‘‘(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
‘‘(A) a manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);
‘‘(B) a transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such a licensee on-site for such purposes or offsite for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;
‘‘(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon that retirement; or
‘‘(D) a manufacture, transfer, or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.’’.
(c) PENALTIES.—Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
‘‘(8) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(v) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.’’.
(d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS.—Section 923(i) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: ‘‘A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device was manufactured after such date of enactment, and such other identification as the Attorney General may by regulation prescribe.’’.


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[J]

This is why so many presidents have asked for line item veto power. To strike out crap that is snuck through. The "ideal" bad situation would be to stick something un-popular on an otherwise very popular bill. The president doesn't want to veto the bill and risk political suicide, so they pass it whole.

Of course with the current POTUS, this line would definitely be included, but in other times it might help.

[TFOGGER]

The Republicans have also used this tactic. That's how we got the right to CCW in National Parks. They stuck the rider in on Dodd-Frank (that godawful "creditcard reform" disaster). I'm absolutely in favor of a line item veto.