Quote Originally Posted by PsychoI3oy
I was gonna say something here about the logical disconnect between being born black or gay or whatever and owning guns, but it'd just start a fight and I don't feel like doing that today.
Sorry, I wasn't looking for a fight either. I was just looking for an analogy to help make the point. I view my RTKBA as a civil right and a civil liberty and I was looking to history for some help, albiet awkwardly.

As to the other question, isn't there a a northern European country where everyone does military service and keeps their weapon? If I recall, they have virtually no crime. I want to say Sweden or Switzerland, but I don't remember.