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    Gong Shooter
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    Default New to Long Range Shooting Questions

    My apologies if this isn't in the correct section, but I wasn't sure where to post....

    I'm brand new to long-range shooting and looking for advice. Trying to figure out if this is the area of shooting sports I'd like to focus on.

    I know there is alot to long-range shooting and its not easy otherwise everyone would be doing it. I like the challenge of trying to make that long shot having to factor in all kinds of data, some of which I know I'm not aware of.

    Is there any good websites or books to help me get started? Something that will teach me proper form and the basics of long-range shooting?

    Does anyone know of any classes offered in the state of Colorado preferably the front range?

    Also what kind of competitions are there for long-range shooting? I see there is silouhette (sp) and benchrest. I think my rifle is a bit on the heavy side to be holding standing up for silouhette (Savage 10 BA) and benchrest looks like something I'd see in a factory test environment, rifles or what may have been rifles in a previous life locked into some big vise like device.

    I'm thinking something that may be done prone or on the bench. What category would that fall into?

    While I've shot my tactical .308 and .223 this is my first "purpose-built" rifle, a Savage 10 BA in .308 with a Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44. For the time being I'm just shooting 150gr bullet reman'ed rounds till I learn some basics and while I'm saving for the caliber conversion kit for my press...

    Given the above equipment I state, what kind of distance with any accuracy can I expect shooting at a 12" target?

    I took the rife out yesterday, sighted it in and tried my luck at 100, 200, and 300 yards.

    Again, not really knowing what I'm doing just what a buddy showed me a few years ago about shooting at distance so I gave it a try. At 100 yds, there were two outliers but the majority were in a 3" circle with quite a few overlapping in the center, but not the "cloverleaf" my buddy had told me about.

    At 200 yds, it was more of a 5" spread and at 300 yds it was within 10" but low and to the left (lower left quarter of the 12" bullseye target)...

    So not great at all.

    Also when sighting in the scope/rifle I sighted it in 100 yds. If 100 yds is the probably the closest I'll ever shoot, I have no clue what the average distance will be, is that a good distance to sight-in a "long-range" rifle?

    I know lots of noob questions. I hope someone has the patience to read through this and give me some much needed guidance!

    TIA!

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    this is a bad addiction to get into...


    ... it's worse than playing with carbines and pistols


    Other than that, I think you'll love and enjoy it.

    As for advice.... I'm not an expert, but I do love to hear "Buy once... cry once!" from time to time...

    Shooting groups tells you quite a lot about your shooting and your equipment. I love blaming the equipment when it's not a tight group , but there are tall tale signs of what's going on just looking at the your shot groups.

    ... I'm still working on what I have mentioned above so i can't go on further than this as I would probably be talking out of my ass

    ... but all I can say is... Welcome and enjoy this new addiction
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    SnipersHide is a great resource
    The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    SnipersHide is a great resource
    ^^^ Mmmm... yes... this ^^^
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    100yds is a good distance to zero your rifle.

    Competition, you would learn a lot simply by coming and watching a match.

    http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showthread.php?t=37424

    Suggest shooting the best ammo you can, such as Federal Gold Medal Match 175 grain.

    How were you shooting? Prone? Bi-pod? Rear bag?

    The last time I was here, the owner told me he planned on starting long range rifle classes soon, give them a call, good bunch of guys.

    http://www.triggertimegunclub.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    SnipersHide is a great resource
    True but the level of "a-hole-ness" there is astronomical!

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    I just started showing up and shooting Hoser's matches in Pueblo a few months ago (with RSVP). I thought it would be intimidating, being a green-butt novice in the realm of competitive distance shooting, but it wasn't. Everybody has been very helpful, bending over backwards to help me learn. Give it a try!

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    thanks for the replies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cysoto View Post
    True but the level of "a-hole-ness" there is astronomical!
    So true about ' The Hide '

    You may also want to try here http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php Just as many knowledgeable posters if not more , without the fat headed egos to deal with . Go to the article section for some great reads .

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    I'll bet someone here would be willing to teach you the basics to get you started. One afternoon with an experienced shooter would put you a year ahead in the learning curve compared to trying to just pick it all up reading.

    If you're willing to drive to the South site, I'll do it. I'm not even close to the best shooter here, but I'm not terrible.

    Attending a match is a great idea. The Snipers Hide has some good information, but I personally have sworn off that site. It's just too agitated over there.
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