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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    So much for the theory he was trying to draw attention to himself and make a grand political statement. Sure doesn't sound like it to me.
    Are you being serious or just trolling? I really can't tell. Let's recap his actions. He rolls out with an anti liberalism shirt. He has te ability to ccw but instead open carries at a theater just miles from where the shooting happened, and he's clearly very angry people are talking about legislation after the act of one man (we can all agree rightfully so on this part). There are two possibilities. He is either trying to get arise out of liberals, which he did. Or he is amazingly ignorant in thinking wearing such a shirt and open carrying wouldn't cause him problems at a theater just a few weeks after such a shooting. Now his problem is that legally they COULD charge him due to the Thornton ordnance which if you ever are going to open carry you have to make sure you know these things. He now has put his fate in the prosecutors hands, they get to make a judgement call on his intent. His actions point to him trying to make a statement, his words (as expected) point to him not trying to make a statement. Really it comes down to if you know the guy and what he is like. My guess is the prosecutor will be anti gun an liberal, and considering he wore an anti liberal shirt (which te only reason to own something like that is if you enjoy making public political statements) the prosecutor will charge him. Again, I'll defend his right by the law to carry all day but not his incredibly poor judgement.

    Additionally it's likely the theater will not allow open carry now since it caused such a ruckus. Also open carry wasn't even on the liberal radar but you better believe it will be now in this area. Look at the possible danger it causes, they'll say. The cops could have shot him yada yada. Thanks a lot buddy. He just put a bigger target on our backs than we had before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    I'm going to assume this guy was carrying concealed and not carrying openly as they mention a permit in the articles. If he was carrying openly (particularly after last week), he's a freakin DUMB-ASS!

    So a couple points on this.

    1) This should be a cautionary tale on those of us that have a CHP and choose to carry into a marked and prohibited establishment. The point is this, as permit holders we know the law (at worst it's a trespassing charge, if you get caught carrying and refuse to leave), but the employees and mangers of said establishment may not know the law and automatically call the police. If you're going to do it, make damn sure it's concealed.

    2) If he was arrested under some city ordinance in Thornton, he may have grounds for suing the city, under the state's firearms supremacy clause and possibly the theater as well.

    ETA: I just re-read the DP article and it says he open-carried, so he's a dumb-ass. None the less, my two points still stand.
    I agree. He was stupid- maybe it sounded good in his head, but the reality of the situation is different. He maybe thought he was being patriotic or safe or making a point- he just did it in an incredibly poor way.

    This guy is NOT helping things, he's making the gun community look like idiots (at best).

    Yes, the media and the theater manager overreacted, but in this situation I think he did what he thought was appropriate.

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    tmckay2...read the article. Slower this time. Maybe you'll get it. Maybe not.

    You might also want to read CRS 29-11.7-101 regarding the City of Thornton charging Mapes for the gun thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    tmckay2...read the article. Slower this time. Maybe you'll get it. Maybe not.

    You might also want to read CRS 29-11.7-101 regarding the City of Thornton charging Mapes for the gun thing.
    I've read it three times now have you read it yet? If not you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmckay2 View Post
    Are you being serious or just trolling? I really can't tell. Let's recap his actions. He rolls out with an anti liberalism shirt. He has te ability to ccw but instead open carries at a theater just miles from where the shooting happened, and he's clearly very angry people are talking about legislation after the act of one man (we can all agree rightfully so on this part). There are two possibilities. He is either trying to get arise out of liberals, which he did. Or he is amazingly ignorant in thinking wearing such a shirt and open carrying wouldn't cause him problems at a theater just a few weeks after such a shooting. Now his problem is that legally they COULD charge him due to the Thornton ordnance which if you ever are going to open carry you have to make sure you know these things. He now has put his fate in the prosecutors hands, they get to make a judgement call on his intent. His actions point to him trying to make a statement, his words (as expected) point to him not trying to make a statement. Really it comes down to if you know the guy and what he is like. My guess is the prosecutor will be anti gun an liberal, and considering he wore an anti liberal shirt (which te only reason to own something like that is if you enjoy making public political statements) the prosecutor will charge him. Again, I'll defend his right by the law to carry all day but not his incredibly poor judgement.

    Additionally it's likely the theater will not allow open carry now since it caused such a ruckus. Also open carry wasn't even on the liberal radar but you better believe it will be now in this area. Look at the possible danger it causes, they'll say. The cops could have shot him yada yada. Thanks a lot buddy. He just put a bigger target on our backs than we had before.
    Totally agree.

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    Guess I really am as ignorant and insensitive as my wife says, like Iron Eyes Cody I weep for virtues lost.


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    Iron Eyes Cody was NOT an American Indian, he was an Italian. Just another media trick. FYI

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    I've been avoiding this thread like the plague, but my brother made me read it and now I'm a little pissed off and feel the need to call some of you out.

    This guy, fat and dumb though he may be, chose to exercise his 1st and 2nd Amendment Rights in a time and place where it was legal but unpopular to do so. You pussies that are calling him a dumbass for doing so will be the first ones to roll over when the other shoe finally drops. Have fun in your re-education camps.

    Just a bunch of internet tough-guys who are all supportive of defending our Rights when all you have to do is talk about it, but when someone takes a stand you hide behind the sofa and cry that anyone not hiding is simply exercising poor judgement. Shame on you.

    What was that tiny percentage of Americans who stood up for an unpopular ideal and called themselves Patriots when we declared our Independence from Britain? Thank God for those men that had the courage of their conviction and would not be told to sit down and be quiet because they might cause trouble.

    Thanks for volunteering your names for the list of those who lack the testicular fortitude for action so the rest of us know who to avoid wasting our time on when the SHTF.

    Flame on.

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    Yeah right ok, you so baaaaadddd.

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    Sneakerd, I see that you are still pushing people's buttons........
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