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    PMAG don't stand for Porno Mag boys sneakerd's Avatar
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    Sooooo.... is this guy seen by the general public as a good guy? Also, 2nd Amendment rights refer to firearms. Civil Rights and/or Gay and Lesbian rights refer to human rights. 2 completely different things and 2 completely different discussions. Your issues belong in the Political thread.

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    From a bunch of "From my cold, dead hands" folks you sure tuck your tail between and your legs and go running when it comes to OC.

    If you want people to know that law abiding people own guns too, show them. Having a bunch of mall-ninja safe queens does nothing to associate firearms with law-abiding folks.

    And all the vitriolic directed at a fellow gun-owner, I guess we're our own worst enemy. "Divided we fall." and we're falling, by the way.

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    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakerd View Post
    No actually I don't. I think most of the guys who OC are doing it to look tough and make a statement. It takes no extra time to throw a light cover garment on and basically eliminates any likelihood of negative press and/or police interaction.
    You forgot to mention the element of surprise... OC means even the bad guys can see you're armed and will target you first... CC and you're just another random face in the crowd.
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
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    unwanted attention... conceal that bad boy and there is no problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorep View Post
    SB03-25 declared this and other "local" ordinances unenforceable.
    I believe Denver sued and open carry is banned there? The ruling shows the Denver suit as affirmed, will have to research the original case.

    http://opencarry.org/co.html

    http://ebookbrowse.com/04sa396and05sa22-pdf-d298901402

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    Ok O2HeN2 let's see you OC to your local theater tonight. I challenge you to show everyone there you're a good guy and have a God-given right to OC. Put your money where your mouth is. It certainly will cost you. Make sure lots of people can see your gat! See you on the news in handcuffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBoarder View Post
    I believe Denver sued and open carry is banned there? The ruling shows the Denver suit as affirmed, will have to research the original case.

    http://opencarry.org/co.html

    http://ebookbrowse.com/04sa396and05sa22-pdf-d298901402
    I believe that's accurate. Thornton has not challenged in court, however.
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    So, IF the theater had the proper no firearms signage and IF the theater owners and operators knew the law, they should have approached him, told him that they have posted the appropriate signage and asked him to leave. If he refused to leave, contact LEO and he could be arrested for trespassing.

    Looks like this situation would be a third degree criminal trespass.

    http://www.lawinfoboulder.com/areas_..._trespass.html

    "Criminal trespass includes entry upon buildings, land, motor vehicles or other property, and generally does not require the intent to commit an additional crime. Criminal trespass, like burglary, may be in the first, second or third degree, and ranges from a Class 5 felony to a Class 1 petty offense."

    "Third Degree Criminal Trespass (18-4-504)

    A person commits the crime of third degree criminal trespass if such person unlawfully enters or remains in or upon premises of another.
    Third degree criminal trespass is a class 1 petty offense, but:
    (a) It is a class 3 misdemeanor if the premises have been classified by the county assessor for the county in which the land is situated as agricultural land pursuant to section 39-1-102 (1.6), C.R.S.; and
    (b) It is a class 5 felony if the person trespasses on premises so classified as agricultural land with the intent to commit a felony thereon."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakerd View Post
    Ok O2HeN2 let's see you OC to your local theater tonight. I challenge you to show everyone there you're a good guy and have a God-given right to OC. Put your money where your mouth is. It certainly will cost you. Make sure lots of people can see your gat! See you on the news in handcuffs.
    There are no longer any theaters in the 'springs that aren't marked "No firearms" anymore. I respect other people's rights.

    Unlike many on this board and other firearm boards I frequent, when I see a "no firearms" sign I respect the property owners rights -- I either don't go with a gun, or I simply don't go (the latter being the 99% choice).

    I am dismayed at the many gun owners who, when they see a "no firearms" sign take the position of "Cover up and go!" All the while whingeing about people attacking their rights, they have no problem ignoring other people's rights.

    So though you seem to have no qualms about asking me to ignore the theater owner's rights, I do. My rights end where the theater owner's begin. You obviously don't think so.

    Again, we're our own worst enemy.

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    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Just so I'm clear is the issue OC in general or the insensitivity to the current situation?

    Don't think I'm an advocate of saying OC in general is stupid by virtue of drawing unwarranted attention usually since another way to perceive that is we can enjoy our rights and protect ourselves so long as we hide.

    I do think this person exercised poor judgement in light of the emotional climate and his ability to have carried concealed. Play stupid games...

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