Bakery Faces Boycott for Refusing to Make Gay Wedding Cake

[Scanker19]

Everything you mentioned there were movements that were started by individuals or groups of people. Maybe the government codified those beliefs into law, but it wasn't their original idea to begin the movement.

What benefits require marriage? I really don't know the answer to this. But taxes shouldn't be one. That's a whole other discussion.

I think he means getting health care, and other benefits from a same-sex couple i.e. gay soldiers can't get benefits from the other as the Gov doesn't recognize their marriage as legit.

[Scanker19]

There is this thing called The Constition that dictates what the Government can and cannot do. I'll give you a moment to find me the section that says they have any authority on marriage at the federal level.

Being gay is a lifestyle choice. Being black is not. Everyone is afforded life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Nothing about gay marriage or equal rights based on choices you make in life.

Nothing says not either. Pursuit of Happiness doesn't have an asterisk next to it.

[Rooskibar03]

Nothing says not either. Pursuit of Happiness doesn't have an asterisk next to it.

Gay marriage, any marriage for that point would fall under Article 10 and would be left up to the states. Seems most of the states have put this issue to vote and the people continue to vote it down.

[Rucker61]

Gay marriage, any marriage for that point would fall under Article 10 and would be left up to the states. Seems most of the states have put this issue to vote and the people continue to vote it down.

So how the majority votes is always right, moral and ethical?

[Rooskibar03]

So how the majority votes is always right, moral and ethical?

Who are you to determine what is moral and ethical? If you want to be technical the nation was founded on Christian values and morals, which are the basis for the founding documents.

The majority of this nation supports the definition of marriage as it stands. That is what makes this country great. We The People rule and dictate how we choose to live. As much as the progressives want to take this control away from us it will not happen.

[spyder]

All that believe that there should be a law against gay couples getting hitched, say I! Now all of you that just said I need to realize that you are no different than the liberal society that thinks that guns should be banned because they think it's the right thing to do. You are the same (just different topics). I just thought I'd point that out real quick.

[Rucker61]

Who are you to determine what is moral and ethical? If you want to be technical the nation was founded on Christian values and morals, which are the basis for the founding documents.

That's nice of you to believe that, but it doesn't make it true. Or the right thing to do. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, not a Theist. "In God We Trust" and "under God" are relatively new additions to US mottos and the pledge. I can agree that this country had a lot of Christianity absorbed into the founding documents, but it was not the basis. I don't see Christ mentioned at all, and the only references to a deity were the seemingly unChristian terms "Nature's God" and "Creator".

The majority of this nation supports the definition of marriage as it stands.

That also isn't necessarily true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_..._United_States

That is what makes this country great. We The People rule and dictate how we choose to live. As much as the progressives want to take this control away from us it will not happen.

The majority also used to dictate that Blacks didn't have the same civil rights as whites. Majority rule can also be mob rule, and that's not an American ideal.

[Monky]

Not like they can increase the divorce rate more than it is now. Marriage is a sham at this point in the world, with the exception of a few of you guys on here who have been married longer than some of us have been alive..

We've seen a lot of divorces in the last few years w/ members here, some going through shit now. You really think that a 'marriage' between someone of the same sex is going to ruin the sanctity of marriage?

The divorces will be much more drama filled (entertaining), there won't be kids to be ripped apart and having to listen to the 'parents' hate each other for the rest of their lives. Ask me how a bad divorce can totally skew your perception of a relationship in life.. My parents didn't make it two years.

My aunt and her gf (yes she is a lesbian) were together for 30 years before she was no longer with us. Lasted longer than ANY marriage in my entire family.. it wasn't legal but they were together, and I still do not see anything wrong with it.

As for the cake shop, they are free to do whatever the fuck they want. It's their business. Hell if they make the best cakes and I happen to be by there I might stop in, but it wouldn't be because they are against gay marriage. It'd be because of the product they produce. Just like chick-fil-a, I may not share the same feelings as Truit Cathy or whatever his name is.. but damn if anyone else has a better chicken sammich or nuggets.

I have several gay friends, most of which have been in a relationship longer than any of mine have lasted.. If they want to get married then so be it. They can't do any worse than the rest of us.

[Irving]

Way behind in this thread, but baking a cake isn't practicing religion.

[Rucker61]

Way behind in this thread, but baking a cake isn't practicing religion.

I hear it's pretty damn good cake.