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    Gong Shooter onebadfx4's Avatar
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    If I lived closer, I would go buy a cake just cause this guy had the testical fortitude to stand by his beliefs.

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    I blame everything on Tummy Aches
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    We got our wedding cakes from them. We also buy a few other various cakes from them through out the year. They will continue to get our business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    So freedom of religion isn't...
    Curious how you see that this violates the First Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    Colorado Revised Statute 24-34-601
    Newracer you are just quoted to get the Statue and this rant is not directed at you.

    I'd like to see this one go to court and maybe we'll get an opportunity to modify a law that purchases "rights" for "protected groups" at the cost of another's innate rights. I can't make a cake out of a box mix but if I did by God I'd sell it or not sell it to whoever I choose.

    Their "right" to purchase a widely available product from one particular location that clearly does not want their business is not a right at all and should be afforded no protection that restricts the rights of another to conduct business as they see fit. How is this a bit different than businesses that restrict concealed carry? They have the right, it is their business after all and I have the right to patronize their competition.

    I discriminate against thugs, gang-bangers and punks, I won't sell them a damn thing. Folks are free to practice pretty much any deviant or anti-social lifestyle they choose but I don't agree they are all good for our society and I don't have to support them in any fashion despite some touchy-feely-everybody-is-pretty law to contrary.
    Last edited by Whistler; 07-31-2012 at 07:11. Reason: spelling

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    Since when is it a civil right to make someone bake you a cake? Unless it's your wife...

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    Whatever happen to the right to refuse service to anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    so what kind of punishment could he be looking at?
    This

    24-34-602. Penalty and civil liability

    (1) Any person who violates section 24-34-601 shall be fined not less than fifty dollars nor more than five hundred dollars for each violation. A person aggrieved by the violation of section 24-34-601 shall bring an action in any court of competent jurisdiction in the county where the violation occurred. Upon finding a violation, the court shall order the defendant to pay the fine to the aggrieved party.

    (2) For each violation of section 24-34-601, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not less than ten dollars nor more than three hundred dollars, or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

    (3) A judgment in favor of the party aggrieved or punishment upon an indictment or information shall be a bar to either prosecution, respectively; but the relief provided by this section shall be an alternative to that authorized by section 24-34-306 (9), and a person who seeks redress under this section shall not be permitted to seek relief from the commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh View Post
    Whatever happen to the right to refuse service to anyone?
    You still can as long as it is not based on disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    You still can as long as it is not based on disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry.
    I never understood this. If a person doesn't want to serve "your kind", why would you want to give them your business? I would rather know up front what kinds of people a person doesnt want to serve, and make my business decisions accordingly. And if a business owner feels like limiting their potential client base, that's their decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Curious how you see that this violates the First Amendment.
    If that man's religion says he is to have no part in homo weddings, then the government cannot force him.
    Just as the Catholics don't have to provide control as Obamacare says.

    He did not refuse service to them based on their sexual orientation, he refused service to a ceremony that dies not exist in his religion.

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