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    Default Civilization May Not Survive Our Debt Load

    http://moneymorning.com/ob/economist...-death-spiral/


    Kotlikoff estimates the true fiscal gap is $211 trillion when unfunded entitlements like Social Security and Medicare are included.
    I'm really curious about the $211 trillion figure and how he got it. If true it puts a real number and raises a question that must be answered by our liberal friends how they plan to sustain that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSS View Post
    http://moneymorning.com/ob/economist...-death-spiral/




    I'm really curious about the $211 trillion figure and how he got it. If true it puts a real number and raises a question that must be answered by our liberal friends how they plan to sustain that.
    The only way our liberal friends can sustain it is by printing money and eventually the costs of printing money will catch up to them too. They simply won't have the funds to buy the paper and ink, electricity to run the printers and pay the folks to maintain the printers.

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    hyperinflation. boom.
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    BOOM is right, Europe is heading for a BOOM right now.

    I wonder how long the Germans are going to put up with the irresponsibility of their neighbors. At what point do the Germans say "NO, we're not helping you any more"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    BOOM is right, Europe is heading for a BOOM right now.

    I wonder how long the Germans are going to put up with the irresponsibility of their neighbors. At what point do the Germans say "NO, we're not helping you any more"?
    For truth. They had a hard enough time with the reunification, and now they're supporting all of the ne'er do wells in the rest of Europe. The EU can't last too much longer, IMO. When folks don't want to work or pay taxes (I'm talking to you, Greece) then the house of cards is going to collapse, and hard. I wonder what China's plans are, when that big customer base is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSS View Post
    I'm really curious about the $211 trillion figure and how he got it. If true it puts a real number and raises a question that must be answered by our liberal friends how they plan to sustain that.
    It is the liberal plan ... crash the system, destroy capitalism (and thus liberty/freedom) and then you put on the jack boots and REALLY get started.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    The masses will just work it off in the FEMA camps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    It is the liberal plan ... crash the system, destroy capitalism (and thus liberty/freedom) and then you put on the jack boots and REALLY get started.
    Yeah, because everyone wants to give up our standard of living. Besides, I just checked the warehouse, and there are only about 30,000 pairs of jackboots in the inventory. There won't be enough thug jobs for everyone, so the collapse won't be fully supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Yeah, because everyone wants to give up our standard of living. Besides, I just checked the warehouse, and there are only about 30,000 pairs of jackboots in the inventory. There won't be enough thug jobs for everyone, so the collapse won't be fully supported.
    No, the liberal elites want all of US to give up our standard of living leaving them to be the oligarchy of elites ruling us with an ironfist and living the high life. Just look at the Soviet Union, most people in abject poverty with the "party officials" living in luxury and with absolute power. I'm guessing since you have access to the warehouse you're part of that liberal elite so whatever you have to say is probably just disinformation anyway.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Default Detention Economy

    The Denver Post says the economy is booming! (for prison owning pricks anyways)


    http://www.denverpost.com/frontpage/...ies?source=rss

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