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    The military needs more Tiger Teams to find the weaknesses & get 'me fixed. I used to do that sort if thing on an OPFOR Team, but each time we'd win (we ALWAYS won) we'd get tighter & tighter restrictions on our method of operations.
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    When I was an iron worker I was on this plant for 4 months. There is some crazy shit and crazy buildings there. Security was always very tight with random vehicle and people checks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    The military needs more Tiger Teams to find the weaknesses & get 'me fixed. I used to do that sort if thing on an OPFOR Team, but each time we'd win (we ALWAYS won) we'd get tighter & tighter restrictions on our method of operations.
    That sounds like just about the coolest job ever...

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    I'm surprised they didn't get a bullet.
    When I was working on base at Fort Waynright (sp?) in Fairbanks, Ak, they shot and killed a very drunk inlisted man who was trying to get into the armory. I actually heard of quite a few situations like this when I was working up there.
    I'm not military, but I spent 2-3 years working on the bases in and around Fairbanks as an outside contractor, and they made it crystal clear of their security regs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    The military needs more Tiger Teams to find the weaknesses & get 'me fixed. I used to do that sort if thing on an OPFOR Team, but each time we'd win (we ALWAYS won) we'd get tighter & tighter restrictions on our method of operations.
    Well, you can't make the security look THAT bad... You really gotta be careful when you're opfor, you might hurt somebody's feelings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    The military needs more Tiger Teams to find the weaknesses & get 'me fixed. I used to do that sort if thing on an OPFOR Team, but each time we'd win (we ALWAYS won) we'd get tighter & tighter restrictions on our method of operations.

    we need story time here

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer03 View Post
    That sounds like just about the coolest job ever...
    It was a volunteer additional duty. It takes what I like to call a "larcenous mind" to do it right. It helped that I could legally go into all but a couple of the restricted areas (thanks to my real job & my official augmented duty in vehicle ops/port ops) -so when we had to break into a place I was actually legal. Had a guy on our team who had been on a team for Patrick AFB & Cape Canaveral Air Station. The stories he told of wading through the croc infested tunnels in/around the Cape were awesome.

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    Well, you can't make the security look THAT bad... You really gotta be careful when you're opfor, you might hurt somebody's feelings!
    It wasn't just SF (Security Forces... Back then it was still Security Police) we aggressed against. We nailed the hospital and CE the worst. Lots of hurt feeling - especially when my little Radio Shack walkie-talkie type radios were able to eavesdrop on their planning comm's. They couldn't figure out how we always knew what they were going to do. We got tighter & tighter restrictions until we thought we were defeated - until we found the storm sewer lines coming from where they insisted we come at them from and travelled right through the middle of their camp - with manholes inside their tents. Used big fat permanent red markers as "knives" to slit their throats, Kool-aid or food coloring to "poison" their water buffaloes, etc.

    Damn those were some fun times! It's fun playing the bad guy when you know you won't get in real trouble and no one gets hurt.

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    we need story time here
    Too much to type up. Perhaps at a gathering - gonna try to make the Aug 25 get together.
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    While I respect most people's right to peaceably assemble and protest, that does not include: infringing on the rights of others, damaging property, vandalism, or trespassing on a secure military compound that they needed to cut through fences to access.

    Those hippies are lucky they were not shot . . . if they were spotted cutting through the fences they might have been. They should do time in federal prison for this, even if it's only a couple of years. And they should all get haircuts, a delousing, and the firehose.

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    Anyone remember back in '86 when 60 Minutes Miike Wallace was briefly detained breaking into a couple of SAC missile silos in Missouri while covering a story of nuclear protestors?

    The silos were close to where I grew up (used to pass them on my daily commute to college). While the damage was really minimal and no real threat to the silo or missile was possible, damage was done. All 8 people involved should have rightfully been shot, but not a one was.

    http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1986/Mi...1ff475bc8f7a32
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