Marriage Vs Marriage.. A question

[SA Friday]

It doesn't really. Considering the majority of the country has a religion based on he tree of Abraham, the majority of moralities are based on those various teachings and all have the teaching of the old testament in common. You really cannot separate the root of a moral belief from ones modern ethics. Unfortunately, anyone using Levidticus as a justifiable moral compass has never read that portion of the old testament.

[Pancho Villa]

The Conservative argument is that the family (specifically the relatively new judeo-christian family, since Old Testament figures routinely had many wives/concubines) is the foundation of society, and any deviation from that would spell disaster in the long run.

(It somehow did not spell disaster to these old testament figures who were, to all accounts, quite Godly and had many wives, but hey. Times a-change.)

It tracks pretty well with the general Conservative view that America's success is due to a specific godliness and being favored by God, rather than specific secular policies that have been implemented. That is the reason a lot (not all, but a lot) of conservatives seem so free market at first; really, it's less being pro-free-market as much as thinking the real important things like gay marriage, abortion, and other social issues will make or unmake America.

As always, those views are subject to alteration or being disregarded by individual conservatives, but if you track conservative/christian theological thinking.

A great review of how Christian theology in the modern age in America applies to politics is "Politics According to the Bible: A Comprehensive Resource for Understanding Modern Political Issues in Light of Scripture" by Wayne Grudem. You can argue about his intepretations and fudging of certain things a lot, but he's a hardcore theologian that writes textbook for the school of thought that dominates Seminaries and has for over a decade now.

Basically, if your pastor is under 40 or 45, odds are he was taught from textbooks written by Grudem or someone like him. From the pastors people absorb ideas; and thus an astonishingly small minority of people determine the long-term direction of a church-going nation.

Fascinating, no?

[ghettodub]

That's always kind of been my question too. I was not raised, nor have I ever been, religious. It seems like some people I've talked with states that this is mentioned in the old testament, but also state that a majority of Christians do not follow the old testament. If you did, wouldn't you have to follow all of it, like the no tattoos, no shaving or cutting hair above a certain area, etc.

Would love to learn more about it.

[MCarp71]

[HBARleatherneck]

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[Great-Kazoo]

I don't care one way or the other. Same sex couples should be able to share health benefits and any other medical or legal benefits heterosexual couples enjoy.
The issue i do have is a same sex couple demanding a House of Worship perform a wedding for them. IF the church does not want to perform one great, their choice. Do not threaten court action, protest, etc just because you cannot get your way.
Get married at the courthouse, justice of the peace, even vegas. Just don't force a religious entity to do something they are opposed to.

[kanekutter05]

I don't care one way or the other. Same sex couples should be able to share health benefits and any other medical or legal benefits heterosexual couples enjoy.
The issue i do have is a same sex couple demanding a House of Worship perform a wedding for them. IF the church does not want to perform one great, their choice. Do not threaten court action, protest, etc just because you cannot get your way.
Get married at the courthouse, justice of the peace, even vegas. Just don't force a religious entity to do something they are opposed to.

+1

It's the whole "you WILL accept what we believe" thing. It's veiled in the name of tolerance but it is actually demanding acceptance. I still think a business owner ought to be able to refuse service to any one for any reason. If it's a stupid reason, then that business just wont get patronized and will close its doors. Capitalism at its finest.

[hatidua]

Gay marriage won't have the slightest effect on my straight marriage. Y'all have at it!

[TEAMRICO]

Because you put children in the middle when they adopt. That child did not have a choice.
I'm all for gay divorce, gay child support, gay alimony! Didn't the first couple to marry in CA divorce already?

[Bowtie]

Gay marriage has little to do with 2 peoples devotion to each other. Any 2 people can live together and share there lives together.

Its about money. Being able to share insurance, being able to share SS benifits, and being able to make legal decisions for each other.