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    Fiscally, I like Paul Ryan. But I think this pretty much guaranteed Obama's victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettodub View Post
    Fiscally, I like Paul Ryan. But I think this pretty much guaranteed Obama's victory.
    What makes you say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanekutter05 View Post
    What makes you say that?
    Because picking Ryan is going to for sure drive a lot of the independents further away from Romney because of social issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettodub View Post
    Because picking Ryan is going to for sure drive a lot of the independents further away from Romney because of social issues.
    Exactly. Republicans and Democrats can generally count on 40% of the voters, the ones one the outside of the Bell curve. You have to capture most of the middle indepedent voters to win the election. I don't see Ryan helping to capture that middle.

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    I'm tired of playing that game. Quit trying to figure out how you are going to be received by the independents... Stand for something and stick with it. Some of you may not be old enough to remember how Ronald Reagan stood tall on what he believed in. And how the media said he was a far right nut job. As Reagan said, “We don't need to grow the tent. We need to bring more people into our tent.” And you do that by standing on principles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettodub View Post
    Because picking Ryan is going to for sure drive a lot of the independents further away from Romney because of social issues.
    Most independents are libertarian, and the ayn rand fandom might give them a common thread.

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    I think Romney pretty much guaranteed Obama a victory.

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    I love how so many people talk about independents as if they were one huge collective mind. Pancho's idea of what brings in independents likely conflicts with half a dozen other peoples' ideas. Newsflash: This independent is reassured and reinforced by Romney's selection of a budget hawk rather than catering to some self-described "minority" or special interest wing -- and it looks like other independents are of similar mind: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...-independents/

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    Honestly, are you guys going to vote for him because you like him? Or are you voting for him to get Obama out?

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