Quote Originally Posted by stevelkinevil View Post
actually we have disagreed openly a number of times. However when a man has a point you have to concede said point to him. Not sure if its ever gone the other way in this case but a man too proud to admit when someone else has a legit point of view is no man IMO.


I think Irving tends to avoid the legislation and politics sub-forum. If intentional, I can understand why. Sometimes I've just had enough of all the garbage.