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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldrwl View Post
    If you don't vote for Romney then you're voting for:


    If Hillary even came close to looking that "good" (good being relative to what she actually looks like) I might consider a vote...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I'm not on the whole with us or against us
    I'll take your word for it then. At least until you start repeating the broken-record mantra you've dropped twice in this thread already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Spare me the cliche "I'm voting with my conscience" and "You're part of the problem" BS... it's the real world, Gary Johnson/Ron Paul/Other Candidate stands 0.00000000000000000001% of getting elected. That's just the way it is. We need to be united against Obama, and the only way to really do that is to vote for Romney/Ryan. If you fail to see that your vote that should go to the one best suited to defeat Obama is wasted if it goes to someone who has a snowball's chance in hell of winning then clearly the term idiot is especially reserved for this behavior.
    No, the term 'idiot' is reserved for a person that believes not putting a rock in one of two buckets some how magically deducts or adds a rock to one of those two buckets.

    If I walk into a restaurant and I see goat shit and horse shit as the only two menu options, I walk back out of that restaurant. I do not choose horse shit simply because The Horse Shit Eaters Of America Coalition is standing there telling me to eat horse shit so that it isn't pulled from the future menu.

    Now, it can definitely be argued that this comparison isn't valid because in voting, you're going to be forced to eat one type of shit or another when it is all said and done. And that is true to a degree -

    But I personally will wait until I am dragged back to the restaurant kicking and screaming and forced to eat one kind of shit or another. I will not belly up to the bar with my shit eating grin and down a plate of horse shit right now just because YOU tell me that choosing neither is a vote for goat shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Wayne LaParrier (sp?) stated that the NRA will back Romney as long as he doesn't approve any anti-2A legislation. If they stop supporting him at any time he is guaranteed a lot of votes lost.
    And that is why I cancelled my NRA membership. They aren't about the Second amendment anymore.

    Even if they were riders on other bills, Obama has done more to help gun owners than Romney has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    And that is why I cancelled my NRA membership. They aren't about the Second amendment anymore.

    Even if they were riders on other bills, Obama has done more to help gun owners than Romney has.
    Funny you say this; 1st time I joined them.... Explain how Obama did more for gun owners??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    I'll take your word for it then. At least until you start repeating the broken-record mantra you've dropped twice in this thread already.



    No, the term 'idiot' is reserved for a person that believes not putting a rock in one of two buckets some how magically deducts or adds a rock to one of those two buckets.

    If I walk into a restaurant and I see goat shit and horse shit as the only two menu options, I walk back out of that restaurant. I do not choose horse shit simply because The Horse Shit Eaters Of America Coalition is standing there telling me to eat horse shit so that it isn't pulled from the future menu.

    Now, it can definitely be argued that this comparison isn't valid because in voting, you're going to be forced to eat one type of shit or another when it is all said and done. And that is true to a degree -

    But I personally will wait until I am dragged back to the restaurant kicking and screaming and forced to eat one kind of shit or another. I will not belly up to the bar with my shit eating grin and down a plate of horse shit right now just because YOU tell me that choosing neither is a vote for goat shit.

    I vote for for who and what I want and ignore what everyone else is doing. Contrary to what many would like you to believe, politics is not a team sport.
    See the problem is that people like you just won't listen to reason. I get that you don't want to vote for either for whatever reason. Great. And you're free to do so. But those of us who know the reality of the situation are asking that you understand that if you don't vote for Romney/Ryan you, in fact, are pretty much taking a vote away from them, thus you're voting for Obama/Biden, although not directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    Funny you say this; 1st time I joined them.... Explain how Obama did more for gun owners??
    Passed bills that included amendments that allowed carry in national parks, and guns on Amtrak trains. Both of which were previously banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Passed bills that included amendments that allowed carry in national parks, and guns on Amtrak trains. Both of which were previously banned.
    Done a lot for gun and ammunition manufacturers and sellers, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    See the problem is that people like you just won't listen to reason.
    I won't listen to YOUR reason. I'll gladly stick to logic. Not your logic or my logic. Logic.

    Logic tells us that X + 0 = X. Y + 0 = Y. No matter how you cook it, voting for Z does not add + 1 to X or Y. Nor does voting for nothing give X or Y my vote.

    You're trying to get people to vote for who YOU want them to by saying things like 'Voting for third party is a vote for the other guy'. And not by debating the merits or short-falls of either candidate. The same type of shit you lambaste some of them 'libtards' on Facebook over.

    'People like you (me)', by the way, is voting for Mittens. My original comment wasn't for or against voting for anyone. It was AGAINST your use of mental-midgetry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    If I walk into a restaurant and I see goat shit and horse shit as the only two menu options, I walk back out of that restaurant. I do not choose horse shit simply because The Horse Shit Eaters Of America Coalition is standing there telling me to eat horse shit so that it isn't pulled from the future menu.

    Now, it can definitely be argued that this comparison isn't valid because in voting, you're going to be forced to eat one type of shit or another when it is all said and done. And that is true to a degree -

    But I personally will wait until I am dragged back to the restaurant kicking and screaming and forced to eat one kind of shit or another. I will not belly up to the bar with my shit eating grin and down a plate of horse shit right now just because YOU tell me that choosing neither is a vote for goat shit.

    I vote for for who and what I want and ignore what everyone else is doing. Contrary to what many would like you to believe, politics is not a team sport.
    The problem here is that we have horse meat and goat shit on the menu and you want a prime beef Porterhouse but you're potentially making the rest of us eat shit because you don't want the horse meat. This is exactly what happened in 1992 and 1996; America had to suffer through the 1994 AWB and some really stupid Supreme Court picks because 5% of the voters "voted their conscience" for Perot.

    Bury your head in the sand and rationalize it all you want but if Obama wins, you will be one of the reasons we ALL have to eat shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Done a lot for gun and ammunition manufacturers and sellers, too
    At least until next year (if he is re-elected) and he instates AWB.... Clinton didn't do it until his 2nd term, rest assured Obama will do the same!

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