Hypothetical moral question.

[Dr_Fwd]

Im sure if they REALLY wanted to afford it, they could. Tv cell phones internet etc could be put off until the class was done.

Exactly.

[fairrpe86]

Im sure if they REALLY wanted to afford it, they could. Tv cell phones internet etc could be put off until the class was done.

I agree 100%!!

[Pancho Villa]

Just be honest about the whole situation.

I have learned over time that deception or even a very small misrepresentation is simply dishonesty and it will fuck you over sooner rather than later.

[Whistler]

What would the Lone Ranger do?

As a grandparent I'll give my grandkids whatever they want within reason but the Son-in-law is a grown man and I'd be pissed to be deceived like that. Grow some hair and ask me if it's that important.

[cstone]

Lots of good answers here. I knew there was a reason I like hanging out here

I see this as an issue of Integrity. Here is a brief article if you are so inclined: http://christinelivingston.com/2011/12/integrity/

IMO, she does a nice job of explaining why your integrity is about you.

Be safe.

[TheBelly]

Deception, in any shape or form will come back to bite you.

What you do in darkness will always eventually come to light. That is something that you cannot get around.

[UncleDave]

Only you can take your integrity away from yourself. Once you compromise your principles once it gets easier the next time. For some reason most today don't understand that there are no small deceptions our compromises to ethics.

[Pancho Villa]

Honesty is the recognition of the fact that the unreal is unreal and can have no value, that neither love nor fame nor cash is a value if obtained by fraud—that an attempt to gain a value by deceiving the mind of others is an act of raising your victims to a position higher than reality, where you become a pawn of their blindness, a slave of their non-thinking and their evasions, while their intelligence, their rationality, their perceptiveness become the enemies you have to dread and flee—that you do not care to live as a dependent, least of all a dependent on the stupidity of others, or as a fool whose source of values is the fools he succeeds in fooling—that honesty is not a social duty, not a sacrifice for the sake of others, but the most profoundly selfish virtue man can practice: his refusal to sacrifice the reality of his own existence to the deluded consciousness of others.

- Ayn Rand, For The New Intellectual

[CO Hugh]

Im sure if they REALLY wanted to afford it, they could. Tv cell phones internet etc could be put off until the class was done.

I completely agree. Plus what kind of father seeks handouts from others. There was a time when asking for handouts would have been shameful; you would only have done it if you were starving, not for a class.

If the class is that important the children can attend on Dad's dime, and dad doesn't go.

Set a good example for the children of an independent freeman; not a slavish serf!

[bigshane]

We often provide our children with tools and experiences that we ourselves might benefit from, but the money goes toward bettering them while we still have the chance to. It's called parenting.