The gummie bear analogy and why "fairness" won't work

[Ronin13]

So I've been trying to explain to my more independent friends why Obama and the left are so wrong with this "fair share" bullshit. I've come up with the gummie bear analogy:

Imagine a classroom of 20 kids. They are encouraged to bring gummie bears to class on Fridays. There is no limit or minimum on how big the bags have to be. So a group of 5 kids bring in 5lb bags. Then a group of 10 kids bring in 2lb bags. And the last 5 kids bring in 1/2lb bags. The kids with the 5lb bags are told by the teacher to put 1lb into the class pot (for "fairness"). The kids with the 2lb bags are told to put in 1/8 lb in the class pot. And the kids with the 1/2lb bags do not have to put any in. After figuring this out, the following Friday the 5 kids who bring in the 5lb bags decide to bring in 2lb bags instead so that they can have more gummie bears for themselves. The kids with the 2lb bags decide that they want to bring in 1/2lb bags so they don't have to share at all. Thus, the class pot becomes so low that there is not enough to equal things out, so the teacher must either forget the sharing lesson, or make everyone dump their bags into the pot and divide it equally. Hence, socialism!

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Either you have too much time on your hands, or you got a new bong in.

[HoneyBadger]

Did someone say gummy bears???

[00tec]

Did someone say gummy bears???

Damn you, now that's stuck in my head again just from looking at the video thumbnail...

[Tinelement]

I hate story problems.

The awnser to that story problem is.....keep your fn gummies locked up in your basement so you don't have to share.

[BPTactical]

Everybody knows that Gummy Bears are ghey.

Gummy Worms are the sheeiit!

[Great-Kazoo]

So I've been trying to explain to my more independent friends why Obama and the left are so wrong with this "fair share" bullshit. I've come up with the gummie bear analogy:

Imagine a classroom of 20 kids. They are encouraged to bring gummie bears to class on Fridays. There is no limit or minimum on how big the bags have to be. So a group of 5 kids bring in 5lb bags. Then a group of 10 kids bring in 2lb bags. And the last 5 kids bring in 1/2lb bags. The kids with the 5lb bags are told by the teacher to put 1lb into the class pot (for "fairness"). The kids with the 2lb bags are told to put in 1/8 lb in the class pot. And the kids with the 1/2lb bags do not have to put any in. After figuring this out, the following Friday the 5 kids who bring in the 5lb bags decide to bring in 2lb bags instead so that they can have more gummie bears for themselves. The kids with the 2lb bags decide that they want to bring in 1/2lb bags so they don't have to share at all. Thus, the class pot becomes so low that there is not enough to equal things out, so the teacher must either forget the sharing lesson, or make everyone dump their bags into the pot and divide it equally. Hence, socialism!

Why waste your time. Those who feel fair sharing and entitlements are for them will NEVER change their mind. Now do a home invasion on a few of them and see how quickly the fog starts to lift from their brain.

[O2HeN2]

Wish this were true rather than a legend because it would work out just the way it was described...

Grading socialisim

O2

[Ronin13]

Why waste your time. Those who feel fair sharing and entitlements are for them will NEVER change their mind. Now do a home invasion on a few of them and see how quickly the fog starts to lift from their brain.

Touche Jim. So someone wants fairness I should just snag their iPad and say "Well hey, you want fairness. I don't have an iPad, so it's only fair that someone who has less than you should get their fair shake."

[newracer]

Similar to this

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for lunch and the bill for all ten comes to $100.

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men ate lunch in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily lunch by $20.00." So lunch for the ten men would now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six men? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to eat his lunch.

So the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% off).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% off).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% off).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% off).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% off).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% off).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat lunch for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare the amount they got off.

The sixth man said, "I only got $1 off out of the $20 while the tenth man got $10 off!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only got $1 off, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"

"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 off, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and told him they they were angry that he got so much off while they each got very little.

The next day the tenth man didn't show up for lunch, so the nine sat down and had their lunchs without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money amongst all of them for even half of the bill!

And that is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the largest benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start eating overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.

For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.