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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    This again is a military definition, and also, kinda outdated.

    Please elaborate how the military definitions of military items are outdated.

    I don't know if you knew this, but there are guided rockets. Look them up. Like I said, the definitions that I gave are actual "real" definitions, not military or anything else that everyone thinks over rules the normal world definitions.

    1 word....CONTEXT. The definition you use depends on what item you are talking about and how it is being used. It's not that hard of a concept.

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    easy guys we are just talking about the definition of rockets vs. missiles, we aren't measuring our rockets and missiles against each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    easy guys we are just talking about the definition of rockets vs. missiles, we aren't measuring our rockets and missiles against each other
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    My great uncle's death record from Korea: Died as result of missile wound received in action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertB View Post
    TOW is a missile. When you break the wire, it becomes a randomly directed artillery round that will eventually impact somewhere, but almost certainly not where you'd hoped. That said, you can break the wire at almost any distance if you jerk the tube, hit any kind of obstructions, water, etc.

    Oddly enough, it can happen that you ground the missile several hundred meters out, yet it still impacts the target. Or, it might pop out of the tube and land on your grill, staring at you.
    TOW stands for Tube launched Optically tracked command link Wire guide missile. I've shot a few in my days. Nothing like launching one of those of a tripod with the missile tube 6 inches from your shoulder. Just a bit of obscure trivia, but my platoon sergeant was the one who named the Javelin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    1 word....CONTEXT. The definition you use depends on what item you are talking about and how it is being used. It's not that hard of a concept.

    Paying attention to what one originally said, is not that hard of a concept either. In my first post I said " Terms and definitions, all depend on who you talk to." I then went on to point out how the definitions I used, were the actual definitions for rocket, and missle. Did I clear this up for you so there are no misunderstandings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    This again is a military definition, and also, kinda outdated.

    I don't know if you knew this, but there are guided rockets. Look them up. Like I said, the definitions that I gave are actual "real" definitions, not military or anything else that everyone thinks over rules the normal world definitions.
    Hey there buddy, when your talking about military systems the military definitions are VERY important.

    Is your 1911 a gun in the navy? (hint: no)
    Using and understand the situationally appropriate terminology is very important.

    Or maybe I'll be like you, and the next topic where someone complains about a computer virus, I'll troll about how they cannot be called viruses because the biology definition means that a computer virus is not a virus because it is not alive but rather a digital creation of code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatline View Post
    Hey there buddy, when your talking about military systems the military definitions are VERY important.

    Or maybe I'll be like you...
    You're not going to be like me, that would require reading and comprehension of what you just read. Now, before you two got your shit all up in a wod, look at what I said once more, here are a few quotes: "Terms and definitions, all depend on who you talk to.", "the definitions that I gave are actual "real" definitions, not military", and the last quote, "But the above, are the actual definitions of missle, and rocket." < Which means simply that if you look up what missle and rocket mean, you will see what I put down. Again, I said, they are not the military definitions, oh and I also said that terms and definitions all depend on who you talk to, read damnit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    You're not going to be like me, that would require reading and comprehension of what you just read. Now, before you two got your shit all up in a wod, look at what I said once more, here are a few quotes: "Terms and definitions, all depend on who you talk to.", "the definitions that I gave are actual "real" definitions, not military", and the last quote, "But the above, are the actual definitions of missle, and rocket." < Which means simply that if you look up what missle and rocket mean, you will see what I put down. Again, I said, they are not the military definitions, oh and I also said that terms and definitions all depend on who you talk to, read damnit.


    Oh....I get it now. The military isn't real. So an M16 must not be an "M16" since that's not a "real" definition. It must be an evil, baby killing, portable death machine that must be removed from existence since that is what some "real" (non-military) people called it in the 60's. What do you call your ARs then? What is a "real" definition of them (if you quote wikipedia, you will lose all credibility here)?

    Perhaps you should read where I prefaced my definitions by stating "in .mil/EOD/UXO circles...." since reading is so uncommon here. But hey, what do I know; being prior military, I'm not "real" either.

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