Person very familiar with NFA items

[Gunner]

I have some questions can you please send me a PM. I am only looking for people with a wealth a knowledge. No googlers unless you are 100% sure


Thanks
Landon

[Gunner]

Screw it here's the deal, I'm a youngin compared to some of you! I always his it so people would not disregard what issue . I'm 20 and will turn 21 in a few months. I want to get something sentimental to me and something I would not go out and get spur of the moment if that makes sense. So my question is... If I were to SBR a rifle like one of those m92s could I find one at a local store have them hold it.. Full out the proper paperwork with the ATF send it in. then by the time I get it I will have already been 21. So I could go get my gun and parts to do the project.


Does that make sense???

[Circuits]

You only need to be 18 to build on a Form 1. However, you will not be able to purchase the M92 from a dealer until you are already 21.

If you're willing to mark a new serial number (in addition to what's on there), there's no reason you couldn't submit a Form 1 right now, then go buy the M92 when you're 21, and mark down your own "maker" info along with the new serial number you wish to assign to it.

Or find someone to sell you an M92 in a private, FTF sale.

Or, if you can get the store to hold it for you, sure, you could submit a Form 1 for the serial number the store's holding for you.

[Gunner]

So I could do it just have to have the shop hold the gun since its a pistol? Now could I find one private party and do it sooner.

So I could get a nfa item now?

I guess you edited you're first post

Oh my gosh I was unaware of this.

Do you have to be a certain age to buy suppressors from dealers?

[O2HeN2]

If you're willing to mark a new serial number (in addition to what's on there)...

2 things, first to correct the above statement: You don't engrave a new serial number, you have to engrave the full name and location [on the receiver] of the entity making the SBR. No abbreviations allowed except those recognized by the post office. This can become a problem depending on how long your name is and where you live:

Millhouse Farnsworth III
Shamballah-Ashrama, CO

For example. This is why trusts with short names are good (though it doesn't help with where you live):

MF TRUST
CO SPRINGS, CO

or

CO SPGS, CO

Note the use of post-office recognized abbreviations. They're the only abbreviations allowed by the ATF. Many people get away with "COLO SPGS" for example, but they're just lucky.

Now for a suggestion. If you're going to make an SBR, especially for your first one, consider a platform that's flexible -- one that you can change calibers, etc. on. Of course, the AR15 is one obvious platform, but another is a Thompson Center G2 Contender or Encore (Or the older, plain Contender) rifles. One huge advantage of the Contender/Encore platform is that if you decide to spend money on a silencer in the future, they're stupid quiet because there's no action cycling. Plus in the rifle configuration, you can buy one at your age.

There, my free advice!

O2

[Circuits]

2 things, first to correct the above statement: You don't engrave a new serial number

You missed my point, which was describing a situation where he could submit a Form 1 now, without buying a potential host firearm first.

In the situation I described, he would have to submit a Form 1 with a serial number on it, and the chances he just happened to guess correctly what the original mfg serial number would eventually turn out to be are about zero.

Therefore, in the case of submitting a Form 1 before purchasing or knowing the serial number of the eventual donor firearm, he'd have to engrave the Form 1 serial number on the firearm when he got it.

[J]

You could always ask the ATF directly. I've never tried that, and won't be able to either (already old enough)

On the Form 4, Question 13(d) is "Are you under 21 years of age?". Which you will have to answer "yes".

You then have to certify the information is true and accurate when signing.

[J]

If it is a pistol, you will convert to a SBR, then you would need a F1, which you can do at 18. Of course you can't receive the pistol until 21. You will need to find a shop that is willing to do that. I'd check the ones that deal in NFA items directly, they are used to holding on to things until the stamps get approved.

[Gunner]

But I could try and find one private party then do the form one

[Great-Kazoo]

By the time you turn 21 the paperwork will still be in the process mode.
Here's the atf contact info
Get who you talked with this way if there is a problem down the road you already have verbal documentation (so to speak) with ATf contact info.
Name
date
Time

They have a fairly decent turn around response time.


If you have any questions relating to NFA, please contact the ATF National Firearms Act Branch.
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
National Firearms Act Branch

244 Needy Road
Martinsburg, West Virginia 25405 USA
Voice (304) 616-4500
Fax (304) 616-4501