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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    I was told otherwise by Earnest @ NFA. I will call to confirm.
    If you call, ask for a pointer to a document, memo or ruling that specifies that restriction. I have found that just because an ATF agent says so doesn't mean it's so.

    If it isn't written down and available to the public, the restriction doesn't exist.

    Example: My engraver here in the springs (T&T) has had ATF agents standing with him while re-engraving recovered firearms with "COLO SPGS" despite the ATF documents clearly saying "postal abbreviations only" of which "COLO" is not.

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    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    If you call, ask for a pointer to a document, memo or ruling that specifies that restriction. I have found that just because an ATF agent says so doesn't mean it's so.

    If it isn't written down and available to the public, the restriction doesn't exist.

    Example: My engraver here in the springs (T&T) has had ATF agents standing with him while re-engraving recovered firearms with "COLO SPGS" despite the ATF documents clearly saying "postal abbreviations only" of which "COLO" is not.

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    ATF agents don't know enough about NFA. That is why I call NFA branch directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    ATF agents don't know enough about NFA. That is why I call NFA branch directly.
    Now this I agree with!

    O2
    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    You have to wait until the Form 1 is approved BEFORE engraving the lower. Adding your name/city on the lower is considered one of the final steps in the mfg. of the NFA item. Basically, you cannot serialize something until you mfg it and you cannot build it until you obtain approval from NFA via Form 1 & tax stamp.
    My gawd man, just where are you getting your information? You can engrave ANYTHING on your lower -- zombies, cute sayings, anything, it's just decoration. Your name/trust/corporation, city and state is just that - decoration until you use it to make (note "make" not "manufacture" - important distinction - and another mistake on your part) it into an SBR and enter the "Additional description" in line 4h on the form 1. Note it's not a serial number -- it's an "additional description". What you're stating IS true if you manufacture a firearm -- which you aren't doing.

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    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    My gawd man, just where are you getting your information?

    From NFA

    You can engrave ANYTHING on your lower -- zombies, cute sayings, anything, it's just decoration. Your name/trust/corporation, city and state is just that - decoration until you use it to make (note "make" not "manufacture" another mistake on your part) it into an SBR and enter the "Additional description" in line 4h on the form 1.

    From Form 1, page 3 (you have to read the WHOLE thing)

    i. Make. The term "make", and the various derivatives of such word, shall include manufacturing (other than by one qualified to engage in such business under the NFA) , putting together, altering, any combination of these, or otherwise producing a firearm.

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    Just spoke with NFA.


    Per Sheri (did not get last name):
    -Any permanent change in SBR length (longer or shorter) then you must notify NFA in writing and wait for approval (approx 30 days).
    -Temporary changes: did not know

    Per Janice Fields:
    -for temp change: no need to notify NFA for any temp change in barrel length, either shorter or longer.

    I had old info before on the longer to shorter berrels, my fault. Now, there is current info right from NFA.

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