Lady Navy Veteran Shot By Cops Accidently

[jerrymrc]

Waiting,.... Waiting...... Come on you know you want to say it! Say it, you know who you are......

Stick up and say something about the bashing already!

Until then: STUPID! And dumb! I will continue to assume as I do!

If you don't like it; Bite IT!

Be nice..... This thread had nothing to do with "cop Bashing" until YOU opened your mouth.

And just for the record it is I and for the most part ONLY I that uphold the founders wishes.

As I see it this thread had nothing to do with cop bashing until YOU and I mean YOU started it.

Not in the mood after sitting on a jury this week while my mom sits in the Hospital. Understand?

[Teufelhund]

you are just waking up to this?


more news... The Federal reserve isn't a Government Agency
Your constitutional rights can be suspended on a whim and the Federal government considers you and all other veterans an enemy of the state.


Good morning cupcake, want coffee with that?

No, not really. I think it just takes me by surprise every time this happens and there isn't national outrage to throw those responsible under the bus. I keep forgetting those of us resisting a police state are in the minority in this country anymore.

g'morning!

[Bailey Guns]

None of the ranting and cop-bashing would have the opportunity to grow tiresome for anyone if this type of incident wasn't such a common occurrence. If this doesn't piss you off, then I really don't know where your mind is. Perhaps you should try to look at it from the perspective of the victim instead of always immediately siding with LE when this kind of thing comes up.

The deputy here fucked up. Plain and simple.

Reading comprehension. It's complicated...but it can be your friend.

And I'd wager I've seen firsthand and suffered with more victims of crime than you can imagine.

This kind of misconduct is routinely overlooked.

First...this isn't misconduct. Second... WTF? A cop shoots someone and that's routinely overlooked? I don't think so.

What grows tiresome for me is hearing about cops abusing their power and then no one doing anything about it.

No one abused their power in this instance.

It should not be up to the public to discipline LE when they screw the pooch; that's why they have supervisors.

The case has been handed over to the local prosecuting attorney for review. For crying out loud...did you even read the article? And by the way, here's a lesson in Criminal Justice 101: there is no police supervisor who's going to be put in charge of officer discipline when that officer mistakenly shoots someone. Are you serious? You're bitching about officer "misconduct" and "abuse of power" in a case where those two things are nonexistent but then you want the police officer's supervisor to "discipline" him rather than have the officer's actions investigated by the DA? Really?

I wish I had time to follow up on all the stories like this to see if anything ever happened to the offending officers beyond a paid vacation during the investigation. I don't have that kind of time, but if I was a betting man. . .

You'd probably lose a lot of money. Just my guess.

I want to see some outrage at this kind of intolerable bullshit. I want to see the top brass at these PDs rain down apologies to the public and serious consequences on officers that can't follow FOUR F***ING FIREARM SAFETY RULES. "They're only human, he made a mistake." He f***ing SHOT some innocent woman in her own backyard! You don't get to treat it like he just dribbled jam on your nice white tablecloth, like it's no big deal. He should be made an example of.

Sounds like you have enough outrage for everyone. Yes...he mistakenly shot someone. Yes...he's on administrative leave. But, just from that brief article, I seriously doubt there was any criminal intent. Criminal negligence? Maybe. That's what investigations and trials are for.

What is sounds like to me is you have a serious hard-on for law enforcement. You also appear to have not a single clue how the justice system actually works. From what you're saying, you want our entire system of laws and justice suspended when a cop screws up because you're outraged. Screw the constitution and the cop's rights...you know, like a trial and so forth. And then you have the nerve to complain about our country being a police state?

This just happened on Sun. What do you want them to do? Just find him guilty without a trial? That what it sounds like. Investigations take time. Nobody cares that you're outraged. Most people are far more reasonable and trust the system to work.

[sellersm]

Not in the mood after sitting on a jury this week while my mom sits in the Hospital.

Sorry to hear about your Mom.

As to the OP & original intent: let's all be careful out there. Personal responsibility has left our Nation, let's face it. No matter who, what, or where (yes, I know I'm painting with a broad brush, and many of the fine folks here aren't painted with that brush's swath). We must be responsible & hold others to the same: some mistakes are very costly.

[Teufelhund]

BG, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

Apparently I'm not supposed to be angry over this at all. I'd love to argue with you about it further, as it is your lack of outrage that I find disturbing, but since I just had my wrist slapped for doing so, I guess I'll keep my anger to myself. Maybe if no one ever says anything, this kind of thing will just stop happening.

[10mm-man]

Be nice.....


while my mom sits in the Hospital

I will respect your wish and pray for your Mother! Hope all turns out better 4 ya!

[10mm-man]

BG, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

Apparently I'm not supposed to be angry over this at all. I'd love to argue with you about it further, as it is your lack of outrage that I find disturbing, but since I just had my wrist slapped for doing so, I guess I'll keep my anger to myself. Maybe if no one ever says anything, this kind of thing will just stop happening.

+1 And another +1 for all the others!

[10mm-man]

And just for the record it is I and for the most part ONLY I that uphold the founders wishes.

I dont understand, what founders are you talking about?

[lead_magnet]

Weapon mounted lights don't "avoid" this kind of thing. They cause it. By having officers point a light at something, the gun points too. Cops using weapon mounted lights to search is a failure mode.

I couldn't disagree with this more, and it's old school thinking like this that creates alot of senseless policy that cops have to deal with. I carry three flashlights, one of which is attached to my weapon. Only an idiot would use the light attached to is gun to perform a mundayne task (i.e. searching for lost keys etc.)

Its this simple - having a weapon mounted light does not make you point your gun at what you want to illiuminate. It gives you an opportunity to illiuminate what you're pointing your gun at.

The old school having a flashlight in your off-hand method just plain sucks ass, period. Yeah, you can do all that fancy hold the light away from yoru body B.S. but you can't shoot with both hands, not to mention, what do you do with it when its time to reload. You can't do anything with your other hand and point the weapon (light on or off) in that method. Not to mention, what the hell do you do if one hand is disabled and noone came by to turn the lights on for you.

When properly trained it is just like any other piece of equipment. I don't know of a single flashlight on this planet that can make me place my finger on the trigger and squeeze off a round.

/rant

[DavieD55]

None of the ranting and cop-bashing would have the opportunity to grow tiresome for anyone if this type of incident wasn't such a common occurrence. If this doesn't piss you off, then I really don't know where your mind is. Perhaps you should try to look at it from the perspective of the victim instead of always immediately siding with LE when this kind of thing comes up.



I want to see some outrage at this kind of intolerable bullshit. I want to see the top brass at these PDs rain down apologies to the public and serious consequences on officers that can't follow FOUR F***ING FIREARM SAFETY RULES. "They're only human, he made a mistake." He f***ing SHOT some innocent woman in her own backyard! You don't get to treat it like he just dribbled jam on your nice white tablecloth, like it's no big deal. He should be made an example of.

You're absolutely right. +1