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    Gun ID legislation may trigger exodus of gunmakers Remington, Colt

    By Joshua Rhett Miller
    Published August 28, 2012 | FoxNews.com


    Two venerable American gun manufacturers — Remington and Colt — could head for the West their weapons helped win if New York and Connecticut force them to implement microstamping technology.
    Microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, is a patented process that uses laser technology to engrave a tiny marking of the make, model and serial number on the tip of a gun’s firing pin to allow an imprint of that information on spent cartridge cases. Supporters of the technology say it will be a “game changer,” allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes. Opponents claim the process is costly, unreliable and may ultimately impact the local economies that heavily depend on the gun industry, including Ilion, N.Y., where Remington Arms maintains a factory, and Hartford, Conn., where Colt's manufacturing is headquartered.
    “Mandatory microstamping would have an immediate impact of a loss of 50 jobs,” New York State Sen. James Seward, a Republican whose district includes Ilion, said, adding that Remington employs 1,100 workers in the town. “You’re talking about a company that has options in other states. Why should they be in a state that’s hostile to legal gun manufacturing? There could be serious negative economic impact with the passage of microstamping and other gun-control laws.”
    In March, prior to the recent mass shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., a Sikh temple in Wisconsin and at New York’s iconic Empire State Building, Remington executive Stephen Jackson wrote to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo warning forced microstamping could prompt the company to “reconsider its commitment to the New York market altogether rather than spend the astronomical sums of money” necessary to reconfigure its manufacturing and assembly processes.
    Ilion Mayor John Stephens told FoxNews.com he believes the company, which has had suitors in several Midwest states with less restrictive gun laws, was not bluffing. Stephens also said the microstamping proposal is bad legislation.
    “I don’t think it would help anything," Stephens said. "It would probably be more of a hindrance than anything else. A criminal is going to obtain a weapon if they want to obtain a weapon. This is a downstate ploy, it’s downstate politics.”
    The closure of Remington’s plant in the 8,000-resident village would be a “huge hit” to the local economy, Stephens said, and suggested that New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg — and other politicians supporting stricter gun-control measures — are off the mark.
    Meanwhile, in Connecticut, similar microstamping legislation has long been opposed by Colt, whose executives have claimed the “feel-good legislation” would drive gun manufacturers out of the state.
    Erich Pratt, spokesman for Gun Owners of America, said companies -- and indeed industries -- leave when they believe the business climate is hostile. He cited the car industry.
    “It used to be Detroit and only Detroit, but now they’re opening up shops all along the South,” Pratt told FoxNews.com. “If they’re not going to be pro-business, then they’re going to lose those jobs. They’re making a bottom line decision: At what point does it become more cost-effective to leave the state?”
    New York Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel, a Democrat and the chief sponsor of the microstamping legislation on semiautomatic pistols that was last considered by the state’s full Senate in 2010, said she believes Remington’s vow is merely a threat.
    “Their main product isn’t even semiautomatic guns; the main thrust of what they do are long guns and military contracts,” Schimel told FoxNews.com. “As a former businessman, it would be foolish for them to leave the New York market. They are getting a lot of money from the state.”
    Implementation of microstamping technology would cost roughly $12 per gun and would go a long way to helping solve crimes, she said.
    “That’s the new threat: to move where that [gun] friendly state is,” she said. “It’s unfair of them to resist sensible regulation to save lives. It does not impact lawful gun ownership at all.”
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    bring them around here, I'll apply for a job
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    “That’s the new threat: to move where that [gun] friendly state is,” she said. “It’s unfair of them to resist sensible regulation to save lives. It does not impact lawful gun ownership at all.”

    She actually said 'unfair'. /FacePalm
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    crap, they can open up a plant here...i'll sweep floors!
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    Not all who work for the gun companies are gun owners. Bring 1/2 doz democrat leaning folks out her with the company and that shitte festers. Sooner or later CS starts looking and voting like denver.

    Still be nice. Imagine how much better a product they might make, without the negative aura of their local and state.gov over them.
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    The best thing the Chamber of Commerce can do for business here is to lobby other states to go the way of California and enact sensible regulation, so elect Willie Brown, Jerry Brown, and the rest of them.

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    In March, prior to the recent mass shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., a Sikh temple in Wisconsin and at New York’s iconic Empire State Building...
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    There is a pretty secure facility currently not in use down in Walsenburg - the PRISON. Already has been approved to hold guys IN so certainly should be able to hold wannabe thieves out. A firearms manufacturing plant down here could sure help the local economy but our POTUS probably would frown on such a venture and quite doubtful he'd furnish any stimulus money to help a firearm manufacturing company.

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    Schuetzen Gun Works (SGW) in 1956, manufacturing barrels in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Prior to that Mr. Schuetz had been partnered in business with well known gunsmith P.O. Ackley.

    In 1975 moved to Olympia Washington and split the company making Olympic Arms and Schuetzen Pistol Works and also acquired Safari Arms in 1987.

    I wish they would move back. Olympic has always been an innovator.
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    “That’s the new threat: to move where that [gun] friendly state is,” she said. “It’s unfair of them to resist sensible regulation to save lives. It does not impact lawful gun ownership at all.”
    So much fail here.


    “That’s the new threat: to move where that [gun] friendly state is,” she said.
    So basically, she's acknowledging that New York isn't "gun friendly". Why, then, would a gun business stay?

    “It’s unfair of them
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    She actually said 'unfair'. /FacePalm
    Yeah, I caught that too. Sounds like a four year old whining about a playmate going home because they refused to play the game by the others rules.

    Lib's can't stand it when folks won't sit still & just take the abuse & control the lib's try to enact on them.

    to resist sensible regulation to save lives.
    Ah, there's that phrase again. Lib's and anti-Second Amendment Right folks love to spew that phrase. Perhaps WE, who believe in our Rights, don't agree on just what is "sensible".

    It does not impact lawful gun ownership at all.”
    Oh, you mean other than increasing costs & the possibility of having an inaccurate "micro stamp" reading falsely accuse someone? No, I suppose if you can ignore those things it doesn't have an impact at all.
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