Educated vs. Smart

[Chad4000]

being educated has nothing to do with being smart imo. I am seeing more and more on job applications and such, "requirements: college degree or equivalent experience".

My brother went to Metro and he had an American history teacher that said the Russians were the real winners in WW2....

and my brother paid to be told that...............

[jackthewall81]

I attend CU and am a socy and anth major. I assume that this course is for ethnic studies degree and is not a required course. None the less, I am sure one quote from a teacher does not qualify the course as useless or as a "free" A class. I believe being educated is directly related to being smart, they are interconnected. Experience and information allows one to be smart. Point of views and different ideologies are where people are becoming separated.

[Ronin13]

I attend CU and am a socy and anth major. I assume that this course is for ethnic studies degree and is not a required course. None the less, I am sure one quote from a teacher does not qualify the course as useless or as a "free" A class. I believe being educated is directly related to being smart, they are interconnected. Experience and information allows one to be smart. Point of views and different ideologies are where people are becoming separated.

Not just one quote, and Teufelhund hit the nail on the head- look at the title of the class! Obviously no self-respecting educator worth anything would dream up a class like that and present it as a legitimate subject, it's a freaking joke. Thankfully I don't attend and have no plans whatsoever to attend CU. My fear though is that our higher education is a joke and that whenever I have children I'll be forced to decide how they would best be educated without having to wade through BS classes to get to a real degree that will actually prove somewhat useful. I still don't understand why they even offer degrees in Philosophy- what kind of work are you going to do in that field? Be the next Plato?

[flan7211]

being educated has nothing to do with being smart imo. I am seeing more and more on job applications and such, "requirements: college degree or equivalent experience".

My brother went to Metro and he had an American history teacher that said the Russians were the real winners in WW2....

and my brother paid to be told that...............

Did they mean in Europe? The prof would be nearly correct. 9 out of every 10 germans killed were killed by Russians. Either way I agree educated doesn't mean smart.

[Chad4000]

Did they mean in Europe? The prof would be nearly correct. 9 out of every 10 germans killed were killed by Russians. Either way I agree educated doesn't mean smart.

World War 2 had more countries involved then just Germany. If he meant that, he didn't present it clearly enough that the class got it like that apparently. I dont think it's a stretch to say that even if the Russians killed more germans that Europe would still look differently had we not gotten involved over there and just kept it in the Pacific.

edit: didnt mean for that to sound harsh to flan, just as in the prof probably still doesnt know what he was talking about...

[TS12000]

The federal loan program and general way of thinking (think of Obama's everyone should go to college statement) have created a scenario where everyone can go to college and those institutions don't really give two shits if you make it through or not. Pay us for three semesters and then drop out? Better than paying us for no semesters right? And once the student body gets to critical mass (more people that shouldn't be there than should, which it already has) then the quality of education takes a steep nosedive so they can keep those people paying more for longer and everyone suffers the idiots that actually make it through that never would have had the standards been maintained correctly.

[Ronin13]

The federal loan program and general way of thinking (think of Obama's everyone should go to college statement) have created a scenario where everyone can go to college and those institutions don't really give two shits if you make it through or not. Pay us for three semesters and then drop out? Better than paying us for no semesters right? And once the student body gets to critical mass (more people that shouldn't be there than should, which it already has) then the quality of education takes a steep nosedive so they can keep those people paying more for longer and everyone suffers the idiots that actually make it through that never would have had the standards been maintained correctly.

Yep- we're on the track to devalue a degree. I'm seeing it now, the average job won't hire people without at least an associates. The Bachelor's degree is becoming the new HS diploma. But what is that degree worth? With degrees in such ridiculous topics as there are now, it would seem to me like that old phrase about things coming in Cracker Jack boxes is becoming more and more true.

[jackthewall81]

Yep- we're on the track to devalue a degree. I'm seeing it now, the average job won't hire people without at least an associates. The Bachelor's degree is becoming the new HS diploma. But what is that degree worth? With degrees in such ridiculous topics as there are now, it would seem to me like that old phrase about things coming in Cracker Jack boxes is becoming more and more true.

What ridiculous degrees do you speak of?

[TS12000]

Chicano Studies is one off the top of my head that I know is offered at Metro. I'm not saying there isn't value in that knowledge but come on wtf are you gonna do with that degree? Teach those courses and write books about it (or make coffee at Starbucks). One hand washing the other.

[Ronin13]

What ridiculous degrees do you speak of?

Some are older- but Art History, Latin, Dance, Parapsychology, Ufology, Surf Studies, and like I said before- Philosophy.