Educated vs. Smart

[jackthewall81]

Some are older- but Art History, Latin, Dance, Parapsychology, Ufology, Surf Studies, and like I said before- Philosophy.

For ragging on CU so much, i believe they only offer philosophy and art history. So CU is a good school in your opinion?

[Great-Kazoo]

If i have to do a basket weaving, dead artist of the 15th century to obtain those extra credits for a degree, i'm taking them.

[hatidua]

Some are older- but Art History, Latin, Dance, Parapsychology, Ufology, Surf Studies, and like I said before- Philosophy.

What people get a degree in and what they do later for a living aren't always the same thing. Some people value education, others less so. Sure, we can ditch art history, philosophy, latin, and most anything other than what specifically suits you. However, with the U.S. slipping in international rankings when it comes to education & test scores, roughly how far do you want to slide down that ladder?

[MED]

Whether a person is smart and/or intelligent depends greatly on their gifts and ambition to apply them.

Education in all things is knowledge. Knowledge is gained and applied regardless of institutional knowledge, practical knowledge, or knowledge passed down from your parents. The purpose of formal higher education is based on gathering knowledge and learning how to apply that knowledge in your field of study. Some people work at it and some people don’t; I have met brilliant well rounded people and idiots as well. Some knowledge may seem ridiculous to some but brilliant to others. I have a real problem with undergraduate work when some institutions and professors teach students what to think instead of how to think.

Yes, a lot of people may be really knowledgeable about one thing and really ignorant about something else. I am really really close to finishing my doctorate; the one thing about all the years of education that really helps me…I can learn and apply knowledge quickly and efficiently. One thing that sets me apart from academia, I completed my masters and worked on my doctorate from the professional world and not in an institutional lab. Ultimately, education opened doors for me that otherwise would have been closed.

[MarkCO]

Being smart has absolutely nothing to do with being educated...Don't even get me started on IQs. I have a bunch of college education, certifications, licensed as a Profesional Engineer, got very high scores on ACTs, got accepted into very good schools...blah, blah, blah. I know engineers with a lot more schooling than I have who can't figure out anything without looking in a book. In fact, I beleive once you move beyond the bachelors degree in most fields, the work becomes offset from reality and becomes a study in the theoretical.

I don't have a PhD in psychology, but I know that if you respect, love and serve other people, your life will be better and you probably won't end up in jail...ain't rocket science. Most of psychology revolves around how to maintain selfish perspective without pissing off everyone around you. Better solution...don't be selfish!

When it comes to engineering, the powers that be want to add on 30 graduate level hours (or a Masters) to be eligible to take the PE exam. 30 more hours won't make better engineers...getting off the computers and into factories while IN shool will make better engineers. Here is a white paper to which I responded, in fact my response is posted at the bottom: http://alethianeng.com/Alethian_Webp...r_to_NSPE.html

ONLY academics think more education is the solution to everything.

On the original post..."smart" people respect others because they have figured out that, even if selfish, it is what gets you by and makes things easier. People who speak like the original quote have lost respect for themselves and therefore lack respect for their fellow man. As a person loses more and more repsect, their values, adherance to laws, and humanity fade and they become more and more like an animal...and chaos is not far behind. Many in our educational system want this devaluation to proceed. I guess it all makes sense based on "Entropy" but it does not mean I have to like it.

[MED]

Being smart has absolutely nothing to do with being educated...Don't even get me started on IQs. I have a bunch of college education, certifications, licensed as a Profesional Engineer, got very high scores on ACTs, got accepted into very good schools...blah, blah, blah. I know engineers with a lot more schooling than I have who can't figure out anything without looking in a book. In fact, I beleive once you move beyond the bachelors degree in most fields, the work becomes offset from reality and becomes a study in the theoretical.

Some of the academic garbage I have to read is truly mind numbing. I agree with a lot of what you said except being educated. That said, education can be achieved in many ways without ever entering a college, but I doubt you could do the things you do without being educated...you had to learn it.

[anomad]

My Grandfather never even went to high school. He was probably the "smartest" person I have ever known.

[MarkCO]

MED, maybe we should define "Education" and "smart"...

I say educating is learning about a subject. Smart is being able to learn AND then the application of that knowledge. Or in another sense, education makes you "book smart" while doing makes you "application smart".

Some funnies...

Consider how smart the average person is...now realize that half of the people are dumber.

Common sense is nmot very common anymore.

Technology has preserved those for whom life would have otherwise been harsh, or fatal much sooner.

[Monky]

I wish that I were educated and smart enough to figure out how to NOT see any more Ronin posts.

[Great-Kazoo]

MED, maybe we should define "Education" and "smart"...

I say educating is learning about a subject. Smart is being able to learn AND then the application of that knowledge. Or in another sense, education makes you "book smart" while doing makes you "application smart".

Some funnies...

Consider how smart the average person is...now realize that half of the people are dumber.

Common sense is nmot very common anymore.

Technology has preserved those for whom life would have otherwise been harsh, or fatal much sooner.

KaChing.

I know "smart" well educated people who wear slip on shoes because they cannot tie lace shoes w/out a diagram, seriously.
Having worked in a research facility where DR was the norm, flushing a toilet, changing a flat tire, simple shit, not a clue. Forget about doing manual labor.

My late, very close friend, best man was one of these. Tell him you have 1/2 doz astronauts flying to the moon. He'd design the craft, tell you how much cargo could be taken, fuel consumption etc.
One night he drives off the pier in to the bay. How the hell you do that?? It was dark and the road ended.. never knew he was on a wooded pier, just driving without a care in the world.
Smart exceptionally, Common Sense, not a lick.