Romney Speech

[HoneyBadger]

alright, for the delusional, heres the problem.

So I guess I'm the delusional one this is aimed at?

liberals have not and likely never will go for a third party candidate.

Completely false. Look at all the liberal groups on Facebook supporting Ron Paul. A simple google search for "democrats for ron paul" (in quotes so it searches for that exact phrase) yields 98,000 hits and a similar search for "liberals for ron paul yields thousands more. There are literally thousands of youtube videos of liberals, democrats, and former Obama supporters who support Ron Paul

sadly even the republican party is liberal... the republicans move us towards liberalism slower, but still move us that direction.

This is somewhat true, but the real problem lies in corporatism and a government that has the power to expand itself.

but liberals will always for forever vote democrat, period. that means when a third party comes in it ONLY SPLITS THE CONSERVATIVE VOTE!!!!!

Again, not true.

you can be an idealist all you want, you can pat yourself on the back, and be holier than thou, but its a 100% guarantee that obama will be re-elected. if you honestly think romney would be worse than obama, then fine, vote third party.

I believe this has already been discussed to death in the legislation/politics forum.

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO BE DIVISIVE!!!! if ron paul even tries to run as a third party candidate he clearly only cares about himself and not the country.

Which is why Ron Paul has clearly stated multiple times that he will not run as a third party candidate.

yes he got screwed by the republicans, and the way they changed the rules was low and cowardly. i don't support it

Not just cowardly, totalitarian. They didn't like the influence he was having on their party and so they literally threw him out. He wants to shrink the corporatist federal government which would hurt the mainstream Republican Party, so they cast him aside, changed the rules of the game, cheated, whatever you want to call it.

this isn't a typical election where there is a democrat we all just think is inept and has bad policies. this is an administration that has shown time and time again they want to systematically change this country for the worse. they also are consolidating executive power like never before.

Systematically change the country for the worse? Like President Bush and your beloved Republican Party did? Patriot Act? Creation of the TSA and many other ridiculous governmental organizations with unlimited reach and power? Bush more than doubled Clinton's federal spending. Bush signed an almost unprecedented number of executive orders. The War Powers Resolution was ignored by Reagan and Bush before Obama. Bush deserves a legitimate portion of the blame for the current economic problems, but he just opened up the doors for Obama to make it worse. Bush also kickstarted the overbearing government growth that we are fighting right now.

You say that Obama's administration is doing so much harm to our liberty, but you ignore the damage done by Bush's administration.




ETA: I'm heading to a wedding now, so I'll have to catch up after the weekend. Please don't let this stop you from posting a thoughtful rebuttle with legitimate and reasonable points.

[Ronin13]

There's always someone out there I'd rather have although there is no civil servant I really feel strongly about.

Be careful with that word... Politicians don't like it, they don't understand it, and they don't think of themselves as that.

[Byte Stryke]

I have a great Idea, Lets call The Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Tea Party Members and all of the other independents derogatory names and tell them how stupid they are while using liberal media scare tactics to try and get them to vote the way we want!

and if that won't work use a really large font in bold.
Always a convincing argument.

[Irving]

I just get livid when people can't see past their own biases to see what is best for this country.

So do you think Romney is what is BEST for the country?

[Irving]

This is spot on what I feel and not antiquated enough to say!!!!!

Did you just call foxtrot old?

[HoneyBadger]

Did you just call foxtrot old?

Yup.

I have a great Idea, Lets call The Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Tea Party Members and all of the other independents derogatory names and tell them how stupid they are while using liberal media scare tactics to try and get them to vote the way we want!

and if that won't work use a really large font in bold.
Always a convincing argument.

Thanks for summing up my feelings.

[Ronin13]

So do you think Romney is what is BEST for the country?

I think he means out of the choice we have... Eew, eat the shitty sandwich or the SHIT sandwich?

[DD977GM2]

Did you just call foxtrot old?

I was able to use the word antiquated ( probably out of context ) and sounded good

[sniper7]

And almost 50% of the people eligible to vote in the last election did not. Until "we the people" wake up and change it nothing different will happen.

This post in another thread is dead on for me.

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost....5&postcount=14

but does that count the % that vote democrat multiple times? does it count the % of illegals that somehow manage to vote. Does it count the leeches that Acorn brings in on buses to vote?

Hopefully a percentage of those who haven't been voting are waking up. We will see in a few months.

[sniper7]

Difference between idealist and a realist.
Realist: Understand that BHO will likely get the opportunity to appoint another supreme court justice within the next 4 1/2 years, completely reversing the balance of the court for - likely forever.

You don't recover from that.

Idealist: If we vote for a 3rd party candidate, next time around he will get more funding, and if we keep doing that, then maybe after 85 years of electing staunch liberals who re-regulate the education system to further indoctrinate the vast horde of our youth to become staunch liberals, they will get elected!

Don't forget to add into that idealist category the liberals who continue to pander to illegals, low-life's of every race, and the other leeches that are happy to live off the government.