How's that religion of Peace working??

[Mick-Boy]

http://skateistan.org/blog/tragic-loss

A short write up on the kids that were killed on the 8th. (Skateistan is a non-profit in Kabul where several of the victims went for recreation).

[Great-Kazoo]

What is the score of the [insert local NFL franchise here] game?

Seriously though. The bombing Mick-Boy brought up is one of the reasons we're over there. We're not there because we can save Afghan children, because we can't save Afghan children. We're there because we don't want that kind of activity here in our cities, on our streets, in front of our churches. Like I said before, we're going to fight this war whether we want to or not and I'll repeat - If we don't take it to them, they'll bring it here in Hometown, USA.

The only people who are going to stop these mass murders are Afghanis, once they get sick of it they'll end it. It is painfully obvious to me that they are not sick of it yet.

In the same vein. My brother spent many a tour over there teaching the locals how to diffuse IED's, recognize the various explosive devices and also keep them updated on the latest way "hostiles" were using attractive items to plant bombs in.
One of their favorites was to plant a small device on the top cover of thermos. They would drop them randomly here and there where water was in limited supply. hoping someone would open the top for a drink, killing or maiming them and anyone within a 10' area.
They left them in populated areas NEVER caring who found them, soldier, men, women or children.

[Ronin13]

In the same vein. My brother spent many a tour over there teaching the locals how to diffuse IED's, recognize the various explosive devices and also keep them updated on the latest way "hostiles" were using attractive items to plant bombs in.
One of their favorites was to plant a small device on the top cover of thermos. They would drop them randomly here and there where water was in limited supply. hoping someone would open the top for a drink, killing or maiming them and anyone within a 10' area.
They left them in populated areas NEVER caring who found them, soldier, men, women or children.

Don't forget the Soviets... When we first got over there we had to take a class on just how bad it was. In 1999 Afghanistan was #1 in the most UXO and mines per square mile. They showed us air-delivered mines that looked like little toys that children would pick up and they would explode, usually not killing the kid but severely maiming them. The Russians were some sick bastards. For the last 11 years we've been recovering and diffusing Soviet ordinance, they estimate we've maybe recovered 40-55% thus far...

[exxonv]

From Dr. Gary Cass (DefendChristians.org)

On this anniversary of 9/11, there is still a very pressing need to get to the truth about Islam.


First, we must remove the false distinction between "radical" and other kinds of Islam. It is a useless and harmful distinction. Why? Because when the bullets are flying and the suicide bombs are exploding, history shows that all Muslims coalesce.


They unify either out of loyalty to their ideology or tribe, or out of fear that they will be the next victims of Jihad. The practical distinction between Muslims as "radical" or not is illusionary. Either way, Islam is a mortal enemy. Why? Because they declared war on the world 1400 years ago. We better be willing to defend ourselves or get used to the idea of being the slaves of Muslims.


Islam by definition is a comprehensive worldview system. It makes a total claim upon the life of the Muslim in all areas of his life. Muslims are commanded to dominate the world through warfare (Jihad) in keeping with Mohammed's violent example. Fourteen hundred years and two great Jihads later, we know that Muslims are still devoted to Jihad and to dominating the world. Welcome to the Third Great Jihad.


Muslims have inherited their value system from Mohammed. Where Islam has prevailed we find the greatest degree of tyranny, poverty and hatred.


ISLAM 101

Islam can be reduced to a very basic proposition; "What would Mohammed do?" If you know about Mohammed's life and teachings then you can understand everything you need to know about Islam. The problem is political correctness and Muslim intimidation has caused the truth about Mohammed and Islam to be censored.

[FastMan]

It's not the Muslim religion itself we need to shun in the USA, it's the acts in its name that conflict with our laws. Don't allow that line to be crossed and i'm perfectly cool and supportive of their existence here. Tolerance is a requirement of freedom. So is rule of law. It's a fine balance that requires wisdom to sustain.

[Ronin13]

They're at it again...
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UE-Jp7KPUj9
"Egyptian demonstrators climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo today and pulled down the American flag...
...Reuters reports that protesters tried to raise a black flag carrying the slogan: "There is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger.""

[Great-Kazoo]

It's not the Muslim religion itself we need to shun in the USA, it's the acts in its name that conflict with our laws. Don't allow that line to be crossed and i'm perfectly cool and supportive of their existence here. Tolerance is a requirement of freedom. So is rule of law. It's a fine balance that requires wisdom to sustain.

I would agree with you EXCEPT
The roaring silence after 9/11 , not leaving out the first attempt using a van loaded with explosives domne years prior to that day and up to present day. There has been a serious lack of condemnation from Muslim's here and around the world .
If there was a public outcry i would reconsider, until then they are all in the same rat infested boat.

[exxonv]

It's not the Muslim religion itself we need to shun in the USA, it's the acts in its name that conflict with our laws. Don't allow that line to be crossed and i'm perfectly cool and supportive of their existence here. Tolerance is a requirement of freedom. So is rule of law. It's a fine balance that requires wisdom to sustain.

Not meaning to be overly dramatic here, but I swore to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I would bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I would obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

I believe in the 1st Amendment (and 2nd J) – what I do not believe in, is being reactive to a group of people who are out to destroy our way of life.

That said, I'd never advocate removal of Muslims from the United States based on their religion. This is a matter of allegiance to the United States of America, loyalty to the Constitution of the United States, and the protection of our Freedom.


Any person or group of people, regardless of faith, gender, sexual orientation, or race, who put our existence at risk by attacking our freedoms and rights, should be targeted as a threat and dealt with accordingly.

Many people of many beliefs have lived, and do live in this great nation of ours, and this is our strength. However, we must always remain vigilant. There are many who would love to see us fall.

[Ronin13]

Not meaning to be overly dramatic here, but I swore to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I would bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I would obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

I believe in the 1st Amendment (and 2nd J) – what I do not believe in, is being reactive to a group of people who are out to destroy our way of life.

That said, I'd never advocate removal of Muslims from the United States based on their religion. This is a matter of allegiance to the United States of America, loyalty to the Constitution of the United States, and the protection of our Freedom.


Any person or group of people, regardless of faith, gender, sexual orientation, or race, who put our existence at risk by attacking our freedoms and rights, should be targeted as a threat and dealt with accordingly.

Many people of many beliefs have lived, and do live in this great nation of ours, and this is our strength. However, we must always remain vigilant. There are many who would love to see us fall.

THIS! I took that same oath and despite no longer on Active Duty status I still live it and follow it, even if now there are no orders to follow. I will defend my nation, my family, my countrymen and my constitution to my dying breath from any enemy who wishes to destroy that which I swore to protect.

[FastMan]

I would agree with you EXCEPT
The roaring silence after 9/11 , not leaving out the first attempt using a van loaded with explosives domne years prior to that day and up to present day. There has been a serious lack of condemnation from Muslim's here and around the world .
If there was a public outcry i would reconsider, until then they are all in the same rat infested boat.

I hear ya, Jim. The silence from the Muslim community infuriates me too. At worst, it indicates support of the evil acts by some of them. At best, it shows a major lack of character, possibly propagated out of fear.

Either way, it falls short of action. While in this country we quickly squelch those who's acts directly violate the rights and welfare of others, we simultaneously provide freedom of thought, here in this great country, regardless how distasteful those thoughts may be to some. We also don't outlaw cowardliness, nor require courageousness and speaking out. We respect such courage and character, but don't require it.

You know, I look around and see such personal shortcomings of timidness or inability to think for self in many of my fellow Americans, of all religions, colors or ethnic backgrounds. It's OK with me, I understand the human condition, and that not everyone can rise above the pressures of their environment, to speak out against their friends, family, and peers. They just don't have it in them. They have to depend on those special few who do possess that courage deep within their core to be that singular voice of righteousness to break a path for them to follow.

Still waiting for those special few in the Muslim community to step forward and lead. When they do, I'll have their back, as I'm sure you will too.