DNC Convention and "investment"

[GilpinGuy]

I've been watching the Socialist National Conv.....oh, I mean the Democrat National Convention for the last half hour or so. I've heard the words "invest" or "investment" about 20 times. I can't take any more of the sewage spewing forth from their mouths.

When will the lefties realize that an "investment" by the government is simply more government spending?

WE'RE OUT OF MONEY ASSHOLES No money to spend = broke. Continuous spending when broke = economic disaster. Economic disaster = mayhem and misery.

If I'm broke, or in debt up to my ass and beyond, and spending way more than I make, I can't "invest" in anything.

Ahhh, I just need a printing press. It all makes sense now.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Liberal cannot tell the difference between an investment and a divestment. That's all I got to say on this topic.

[GilpinGuy]

Meh, just changed the channel to "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey" on VH1. Much more interesting.

[Teufelhund]

*Hijack*

Anyone else face palm when Romney issued the commercials advertising that Obama was going to take away the "work" requirement of welfare? Like good god man, do you realize what a significant portion of the voter base is? Overweight couch potatoes on welfare that uh, ya, don't really want to work. Not helping the votes by advertising that Obama want's to give leeches more freebies.

That's a good point. "Alienate potential voters" seems to be the trending battle cry. God knows why anyone thinks that's a good idea.


I did facepalm earlier tonight when I saw an Obama commercial where a woman talks about how Romney made Mass. into number 47 in job growth, so now she's voting for Obama.

Why, because Obama's track record with job growth is more impressive? Someone remind me again how many Americans are out of work and how many are on some form of welfare.

[Rucker61]

Someone remind me again how many Americans are out of work and how many are on some form of welfare.

Roughly 12.5M unemployed, down from a high of

Welfare: 1.7% derive over 50% of their income from welfare, and about 8% (29.9 million) of the population receive some type of assistance (food stamps, etc.), if we count Temporary Aid to Needy Families. Demographically, the latter is broken down into about 39% white, 38% Black, 17% Hispanic.

Here's a article from WSJ that reports that almost half of the US population lived in a househould where at least one member received some benefit from the government.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/...ting-benefits/

Unfortunately, details on what counted as a benefit were lacking, so it's not a useful data point.

[Ronin13]

Roughly 12.5M unemployed, down from a high of

Welfare: 1.7% derive over 50% of their income from welfare, and about 8% (29.9 million) of the population receive some type of assistance (food stamps, etc.), if we count Temporary Aid to Needy Families. Demographically, the latter is broken down into about 39% white, 38% Black, 17% Hispanic.

Here's a article from WSJ that reports that almost half of the US population lived in a househould where at least one member received some benefit from the government.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/...ting-benefits/

Unfortunately, details on what counted as a benefit were lacking, so it's not a useful data point.

Actually your data is out of date-
As of 7/26/12 (most recent data available)
Total number of American’s on welfare 15,000,000 (4.1%)
Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment): $131.9 billion
Total amount of money you can make monthly and still receive Welfare: $1000
Total Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than an $8 per hour job: 40
Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than a $12 per hour job: 7
Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than the average salary of a U.S. Teacher: 9
TIME ON WELFARE PERCENTAGES:
Less than 7 months: 19%
7 to 12 months: 15.2%
1 to 2 years: 19.3%
2 to 5 years: 26.9%
Over 5 years: 19.6%
14.5 percent of people share a home with a person on Medicare, and 16 percent lived with someone reliant on Social Security.
32.4 percent of the U.S. population receives support with food stamps, subsidized housing and healthcare support.
Applications for state benefits have increased 50 percent in the past decade.

Entitlements have to go... they're sucking us dry. It's the scary, dirty, and unfortunate truth, but that's the way it is...

[GilpinGuy]

Anyone else face palm when Romney issued the commercials advertising that Obama was going to take away the "work" requirement of welfare? Like good god man, do you realize what a significant portion of the voter base is? Overweight couch potatoes on welfare that uh, ya, don't really want to work. Not helping the votes by advertising that Obama want's to give leeches more freebies.

I think (and could be wrong - no evidence here) that most actual voters are working folks, or folks that want to work. Totally government-dependent sloths don't do anything that they don't have to, and they don't have to vote.

These ads reinforce the GOP base and (hopefully) convince some "independents" that this move by Obama was bad, like most moves he's made (those made on the basketball court excepted).

[jhood001]

*Hijack*

Anyone else face palm when Romney issued the commercials advertising that Obama was going to take away the "work" requirement of welfare? Like good god man, do you realize what a significant portion of the voter base is? Overweight couch potatoes on welfare that uh, ya, don't really want to work. Not helping the votes by advertising that Obama want's to give leeches more freebies.

So are you arguing that Romney doesn't actually want to take the work requirement away? Or are you saying that he should lie about what he wants to do?

Are you encouraging a politician to lie or obscure the truth so that he can do what is right once they're in a position to do so?

If you believe obscuring one's agenda now so that they can do the right thing later is what this country needs, you just might be a part of the problem.

Just a thought.

[Rucker61]

*Hijack*

Anyone else face palm when Romney issued the commercials advertising that Obama was going to take away the "work" requirement of welfare? Like good god man, do you realize what a significant portion of the voter base is? Overweight couch potatoes on welfare that uh, ya, don't really want to work. Not helping the votes by advertising that Obama want's to give leeches more freebies.

I'm curious. Just how many voters are on welfare? And what are their demographics. You seem to know.

[sellersm]

Here ya go, a nation 'under water'.