dismal job growth a blow to obama

[Sawin]

Fixed it for you.

Highly skilled older workers do not get hired when there is an abundance of younger, lower paid workers with "almost" skillsets.

Sadly, that's a very unfortunate truth as well. Thanks.

[Irving]

Flipping burgers is NOT comparable to waiting tables.

[MrPrena]

I am still waiting for a job that was well paid during 1999-2000!!!!!!!!

[jerrymrc]

Working in the Medical field I will let ya in on a clue how some of those that have the entitlement thoughts work the military. The mid 2000's were a great time for them.

So ya have an AS degree and ya work dead end jobs because your lazy and always get fired. So lose just enough weight to get in. Now you take a job like supply or something easy and once you get through AIT your broke.

You spend the next three years complaining of everything and anything. Having studied 101 ways to be disabled you never pass a PT test, you never deploy and in the end get med boarded.

After the Army gives you 10% and writes a check for $15K or so and the VA gives you 70% so you now have $18K per year coming in. They then take that 70% and apply for SS benefits. If they play there cards right SS chips in another $12K per year so at age 26 with a couple of kids you now have $27K tax free for life.

45% of all service members leaving the Military are claiming benefits. In my day (Gulf War) 21% claimed them.

I do want to add that this in no way takes anything from those that deserve them but it borders on stupid when a cook that serves 3-4 years stateside and never deploys can claim 50-60% for anything and everything.

And I saw the basic example above first hand.

[sabot_round]

Working in the Medical field I will let ya in on a clue how some of those that have the entitlement thoughts work the military. The mid 2000's were a great time for them.

So ya have an AS degree and ya work dead end jobs because your lazy and always get fired. So lose just enough weight to get in. Now you take a job like supply or something easy and once you get through AIT your broke.

You spend the next three years complaining of everything and anything. Having studied 101 ways to be disabled you never pass a PT test, you never deploy and in the end get med boarded.

After the Army gives you 10% and writes a check for $15K or so and the VA gives you 70% so you now have $18K per year coming in. They then take that 70% and apply for SS benefits. If they play there cards right SS chips in another $12K per year so at age 26 with a couple of kids you now have $27K tax free for life.

45% of all service members leaving the Military are claiming benefits. In my day (Gulf War) 21% claimed them.

I do want to add that this in no way takes anything from those that deserve them but it borders on stupid when a cook that serves 3-4 years stateside and never deploys can claim 50-60% for anything and everything.

And I saw the basic example above first hand.

I know exactly what you are talking about!! I see it every day and it's getting worst.

On the flip side, there are DA civs. that are clinging to those turds fearing that if they don't have any "customers" they'll be terminated, and they let those turds marinate in our system collecting a paycheck for doing nothing!! Can't even show up for work because the sight of a uniform disturbs them.

[rockhound]

OBAMA'S POLICIES DO NO ENCOURAGE JOB GROWTH

he threw billions at the solar industry which until the technology gets much less expensive will go nowhere,

it would cost me nearly $45k to install a system to meet the needs of my household, i priced it,

no way to justify that expense, an industry with no demand has no reason to produce jobs

he has done everything he can to shut down the coal industry, oil production,

the bailout of GM did probably save jobs, but it did not create new ones,
there is a whole other side of that discussion that we will not go into.

raising taxes on investments, higher income earners and kissing union butts does not encourage jobs,

you want to create jobs, unleash our natural resources, stop kissing the EPA and tree hugger butts, let the US be an oil exporter and get our costs of energy back inline, that will stimulate this economy beyond any other measure
people will have more money to spend, that will create demand which will create jobs,

dont tell me the coal is bad for the environment, i drove by a coal plant two weeks ago, i have seen more exhaust output from one fireplace than that plant was producing, they are so clean now there is no excuse not to have the cheapest energy on the planet in this country.

[Ronin13]

Flipping burgers is NOT comparable to waiting tables.

I was speaking in general terms... food service.

[Irving]

I was speaking in general terms... food service.

Food service, is customer service, and all customer service us generally the same. I find it interesting you were willing to write off waiting tables (up to $20/hr and no tax) as food service, but went and sold insurance instead, which is largely the same type of job.

[Ronin13]

Food service, is customer service, and all customer service us generally the same. I find it interesting you were willing to write off waiting tables (up to $20/hr and no tax) as food service, but went and sold insurance instead, which is largely the same type of job.

Eh, you're looking at it too simply. I hated food service when I did it... I didn't hate bartending as much, but the hours sucked. I don't hate customer service, it's the type of customer service- Insurance is way different than food service. Food service feels more like slave type service (I don't mean that in a disparaging way- it's the only way I can explain it simply), whereas insurance is more of a educated service. Hard to explain, but I don't see them as the same.

[Pancho Villa]

When I ran that warehouse, I loved hiring old guys who were way overqualified.

They worked cheap, they worked hard and they often had side skills that would help and we could pay them extra for (ex: hired a carpenter once, we needed some tables made, he made them for us and we paid them a lot more than the 10 stupid bucks an hour he was making shipping computer hardware.)

They appreciated that I understood they were looking for better, would let them have days off when they had interviews and figured the arrangement was temporary. While they were here they were worth more per dollar invested than the young guys.

Young guys are a longer-term investment. My 2nd, who took over when I left, was younger. You can teach them your system and they shut up and learn it, and the smart ones will try to tweak it to be better too, but more important is they'll stay and don't feel like they're just passing time looking for a better job.

But if I wanted a guy who would "get it" on day 1 or 2, pay attention and be a good, solid worker for a few weeks to a few months, give me an old guy.