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    So how would a guy go about buying something like this and still protect yourself? I'm sure a BOS does no good right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birddog View Post
    So how would a guy go about buying something like this and still protect yourself? I'm sure a BOS does no good right?
    Good question. Technically, if it is stolen, and you don't know that it is, I don't believe you can get in trouble for receiving stolen property. I would, however cover your ass and check the serial if you plan on buying and you suspect it may be stolen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Good question. Technically, if it is stolen, and you don't know that it is, I don't believe you can get in trouble for receiving stolen property. I would, however cover your ass and check the serial if you plan on buying and you suspect it may be stolen.
    How do you check the serial number? Is there a "GunFax" type program or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    How do you check the serial number? Is there a "GunFax" type program or something?
    No Gun Fax - and I hope there never is... The last thing we need is more Federal $(@)#( .

    I do ask for pics and serial number, and I do call the manf for a "born on date" from time to time. Depends on the investment though - north of $500 and I do the research.

    F2F and if they won't let you break the gun down, then walk away. Most people are on the up-and-up - at least that has been my experience. I've gotten some great deals from folks that I thought were way in my favor, but I'm guessing they thought the same.

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    If it is stolen, that's unfortunately the chance you take w/the used market.
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    I do ask for pics and serial number, and I do call the man for a "born on date" from time to time.



    And how do you go about this?
    Regarding breaking down, in a public place. I would send you pics of gun disassembled if that does not work, on to buyer #2. I had a "buyer' ask if he could break down a pistol, $%^& had no clue how to do it, thanks enjoy the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    I do ask for pics and serial number, and I do call the man for a "born on date" from time to time.



    And how do you go about this?
    Regarding breaking down, in a public place. I would send you pics of gun disassembled if that does not work, on to buyer #2. I had a "buyer' ask if he could break down a pistol, $%^& had no clue how to do it, thanks enjoy the day.
    Sometimes you just have to trust the person you're dealing with.
    What I do if I'm looking to spend quite a bit on a weapon - I ask the seller for the serial number so I can check the date - if they say no, then I'm on my way to another buyer.

    When I meet F2F, it's public (parking lot). It's easy to field strip a weapon in the parking lot (in your car) in a few seconds. If someone doesn't know how and asks me (when buying from me), I do it for them. If I don't know how, I research it before I show up. You can find quite a bit out about what to look for with a little research. With Glocks (for instance), I really only check the barrel for bulging, most everything else is easy to fix (cheap) anyway. If someone was willing to send pics of the weapon field stripped, even better!

    Again, this is only if I have concerns (i.e. what this thread started about - a $250 G19).

    I generally trust that people are telling me the truth, and you can pretty much tell if someone is trying to be deceptive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exxonv View Post
    What I do if I'm looking to spend quite a bit on a weapon - I ask the seller for the serial number so I can check the date - if they say no, then I'm on my way to another buyer.

    When I meet F2F, it's public (parking lot). It's easy to field strip a weapon in the parking lot (in your car) in a few seconds. If someone doesn't know how and asks me (when buying from me), I do it for them. If I don't know how, I research it before I show up. You can find quite a bit out about what to look for with a little research. With Glocks (for instance), I really only check the barrel for bulging, most everything else is easy to fix (cheap) anyway. If someone was willing to send pics of the weapon field stripped, even better!

    Again, this is only if I have concerns (i.e. what this thread started about - a $250 G19).

    I generally trust that people are telling me the truth, and you can pretty much tell if someone is trying to be deceptive.
    I never give out serial numbers to anyone. I'm surprised sellers give you that info. A phone call and or e-m from an interested party is not enough for me to volunteer serial numbers. Now selling a pre-ban item to a ban stater i give the first few numbers to confirm date of mfg.

    You still have not answered who you check the "Date" with. Who do you do this through, mfg of gun, police. atf, who??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    How do you check the serial number? Is there a "GunFax" type program or something?
    I would say contact LE and let them know you're planning on purchasing the gun but you wanted to make sure it wasn't reported stolen... You know you can do that, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I would say contact LE and let them know you're planning on purchasing the gun but you wanted to make sure it wasn't reported stolen... You know you can do that, right?
    Q: - have you done this in the past? I've never tried this route, so I'm curious. I know you can call them, but if you have, what is the timeframe for response, etc?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by exxonv View Post
    Q: - have you done this in the past? I've never tried this route, so I'm curious. I know you can call them, but if you have, what is the timeframe for response, etc?

    Thanks!
    I personally have never done this- I haven't ever purchased a used weapon before. But I do have a friend who has, no idea on the time frame though...
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