Interesting picture, what do you think?

[Pancho Villa]

It's kind of dumb. Uninvolved (the term 'innocent' ruffles my feathers a bit, as one can be a civilian and very much not 'innocent.') people die in war. In more rational times we held that it was the aggressor's fault that such people died, even when the other side (accidentally) killed them. They started it and necessitated the response, after all, and the hurt party's standard ought to be to preserve their own soldiers and people.

It's a very strange moral standard, that ties the good man's hands and works to the advantage of the evil man. We could speculate as to the motives of people who promote such a moral standard - what they hope to accomplish - but that is considered rude in this day and age.

[Sawin]

It's kind of dumb. Uninvolved (the term 'innocent' ruffles my feathers a bit, as one can be a civilian and very much not 'innocent.') people die in war. In more rational times we held that it was the aggressor's fault that such people died, even when the other side (accidentally) killed them. They started it and necessitated the response, after all, and the hurt party's standard ought to be to preserve their own soldiers and people.

It's a very strange moral standard, that ties the good man's hands and works to the advantage of the evil man. We could speculate as to the motives of people who promote such a moral standard - what they hope to accomplish - but that is considered rude in this day and age.

Extremely well put Pancho. I couldn't agree more.

[rockhound]

It's kind of dumb. Uninvolved (the term 'innocent' ruffles my feathers a bit, as one can be a civilian and very much not 'innocent.') people die in war. In more rational times we held that it was the aggressor's fault that such people died, even when the other side (accidentally) killed them. They started it and necessitated the response, after all, and the hurt party's standard ought to be to preserve their own soldiers and people.

It's a very strange moral standard, that ties the good man's hands and works to the advantage of the evil man. We could speculate as to the motives of people who promote such a moral standard - what they hope to accomplish - but that is considered rude in this day and age.

i have to say pancho that i never thought you and i would agree on anything

well stated sir:

[Ronin13]

i have to say pancho that i never thought you and i would agree on anything

well stated sir:

I echo this!

War is a morally ambiguous place... there is so much grey area in the fog of war that it is impossible to place a black and white description with it.