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    Took Advantage of Lifes Mulligan Pancho Villa's Avatar
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    “Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I’m going to put in place,” he said in an interview broadcast Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” ”One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage.”
    For those not keeping score, coverage for preexisting conditions was the teeth of Obamacare - what would destroy the private insurance system and require us to move to single payer. It turns an insurance plan from actual insurance to a wealth transfer from people without preexisting conditions to those with.

    Keep healthy. We won't have a very good medical system in a few years, no matter who wins the election.

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    given his history thats no big surprise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    Keep healthy. We won't have a very good medical system in a few years, no matter who wins the election.
    Or we can be responsible adults and buy our own health insurance.
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    True, but what is forcing insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions going to do to the cost of your health insurance? It's not going to make it go down, that's for sure.
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    Health insurance is never going to get cheaper - fact. That being said, my best friend's wife just died at age 45 from a rare long-term disease. Because of the disease being a "pre-existing condition" she did not qualify for health insurance. He's now having to file bankruptsy because of all the medical bills. People think just because someone passes away, so do all their bills, not true. Had he been able to purchase medical insurance for her - regardless of expense - at least it may have been able to help some. I don't like the idea of having pay "more" for health insurance any more than you guys & gals, but I've seen both sides of it and it's ugly no matter how you see it.
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    the pre existing conditions issue is the one thing that actually has merit. youre going to be hard pressed to figure out a cheap solution, but there needs to be a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmckay2 View Post
    the pre existing conditions issue is the one thing that actually has merit. youre going to be hard pressed to figure out a cheap solution, but there needs to be a solution.
    yeah, buy insurance.
    why should anyone cover a pre-existing condition?

    it's like not buying flood insurance on your house until after the rain starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    Health insurance is never going to get cheaper - fact. That being said, my best friend's wife just died at age 45 from a rare long-term disease. Because of the disease being a "pre-existing condition" she did not qualify for health insurance. He's now having to file bankruptsy because of all the medical bills. People think just because someone passes away, so do all their bills, not true. Had he been able to purchase medical insurance for her - regardless of expense - at least it may have been able to help some. I don't like the idea of having pay "more" for health insurance any more than you guys & gals, but I've seen both sides of it and it's ugly no matter how you see it.
    cover colorado would have worked for your friend's wife.
    or just say "no habla englese", that seems to work too (and is 50% of the real problem)
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    I told you so.
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    i dont have health insurance because it is too expensive. if something happens or i get cancer, it is MY problem. i dont expect anyone to let me buy insurance once i know i have trouble. in most cases, people make a decision NOT to buy health insurance and then when something happens get all bent out of shape that they are denied for a pre-existing condition.
    i could buy insurance, but i CHOOSE not to. while it is expensive, i could do it but i choose to spend my money on other things. i ran the numbers a few years ago and determined that while i had health insurance for most of my life it was NEVER cost effective. even with a couple of mri's, ct scans, spinal tap, pinned finger, a few er visits for stitches, and the occasional doctor visit, i would have been better off all those years just saving the money that i spent on the premiums.
    since i stopped buying insurance, i am up a few thousand dollars. even with having to get stitches twice in the last year. i am saving about $320 per month, or $3840 per year. last year i spent about $1000 on health care, this year about $500 so for the last three years i am up about $10,000. now that much wont save me if i get cancer, it will cover most if not all other medical visits/ issues i might have. BUT other people choose not to have insurance, but instead have satellite tv, eat dinner out, have a new car, etc... and then when they have even a small problem, they have NO money to pay for it and then expect someone else to cover for their decision.

    socialized medicine will be the death of the best health care system in the world. it may not have been perfect, but it was better than the rest of the world. why else would people from canada, britain, and other countries come here for treatments?

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