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    Default what kind of magnification should i be looking at for 1000+yd

    well with the last of the crap ordered on my 3 gun ar15 build its time to start researching my long range setup this is going to be a long term build since the scopes i have been looking at are easily more then im spending on my latest ar....lol

    i want to do it right the first time(ha) because on my first ar i bought everything 3 times over as i played with the gun more and more

    im looking in the 2500$ range what companies should i be looking at and what magnification should i be looking at for 1000yd field shooting, i dont do benchrest so the scope will be getting knocked around

    i really am wanting variable power but is it something a lot of you guys are using or is it just getting jammed on full power and left there

    the glass will be going on a trg 42 in .338 lapua

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    The more power the better... and the bigger tube diameter the better as well (for more elevation adjustments, etc..)...

    ...then you want to look at some reticles you could possibly live with... getting a reticle you won't like is hard on the mind and heart when you know you spent bookoo bucks on the scope...

    This'll be something you will need to dig deep for yourself on exactly what you want... "Buy once! Cry once!"

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    I have a S&B PMII 5-25x56 H37 on my .308 GAP and I can see out to a mile with it no problem... unless the sun is in my face
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    I would look in the 25-30X area. Target ID when shooting that far is important, to me anyway. You can smack a 12-16 inch target at that range with a 6X scope, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by cofi View Post
    well with the last of the crap ordered on my 3 gun ar15 build its time to start researching my long range setup this is going to be a long term build since the scopes i have been looking at are easily more then im spending on my latest ar....lol

    i want to do it right the first time(ha) because on my first ar i bought everything 3 times over as i played with the gun more and more

    im looking in the 2500$ range what companies should i be looking at and what magnification should i be looking at for 1000yd field shooting, i dont do benchrest so the scope will be getting knocked around

    i really am wanting variable power but is it something a lot of you guys are using or is it just getting jammed on full power and left there

    the glass will be going on a trg 42 in .338 lapua
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    In the price range your talking about for the 338 class rifles there is pretty much one option , 5.5-22 Nightforce . Unless you find a smoking deal on a used S&B thats what I'd get . Get the hi speed knobs and zero stop and either the MLR2 or MOAR reticule depending on your tastes in graduations , Mil or MOA .

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Ward View Post
    In the price range your talking about for the 338 class rifles there is pretty much one option , 5.5-22 Nightforce . Unless you find a smoking deal on a used S&B thats what I'd get . Get the hi speed knobs and zero stop and either the MLR2 or MOAR reticule depending on your tastes in graduations , Mil or MOA .
    This is what I'm running on my precision rifle. I've shot it a few times at a grand and it worked very well. If I remember right, I was able to almost recognize my shooting buddy's face while he was resetting a target. ( the bolt was in HIS pocket)
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    Am I really the only one running a T-36?
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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    The T36 isn't feasible on a field rifle in my opinion because of 3 things for sure . No graduations on the reticule for performing shots with hold overs or holding for wind accurately . The 1/8 MOA click values are too fine and will limit the overall travel available for adjustment . And the 1 inch tube will also limit the total overall available adjustment .

    The problem with economy line glass is once you get to cranking on the knobs to make elevation corrections the wheels come off the wagon . There is only so much engineering and internal parts quality you are going to get in a economy scope and the internals are just not up to the task . A scope is a sighting system first and an observation tool second . It is way more important that it tracks properly and repeatably than glass clarity .

    Box test Your T36 to the full extent of its travel , a little 5 MOA box isn't enough to tell what is really going on , and see what you get .

    I was down in Raton this morning shooting my 338 to distance and the come up from a 200 yard zero to 1400 was 11.9 Mil / 41.5 MOA and to 2168 was 25 MIL / 87 MOA . With a total available adjustment of 65 MOA and a real world number of around 45 ish your barely going to make it to 1400 and will be holding in space with no reference for 2168 .

    A 338LM class rifle is practically a 1 mile gun and depending on the projectile and environmental condition doesn't go subsonic at this altitude till 2400ish yards . I didn't get mine to poke holes in paper at 100 yards and to limit the capabilities of the rifle with sub par glass doesn't make sense .
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    Quote Originally Posted by C Ward View Post
    In the price range your talking about for the 338 class rifles there is pretty much one option , 5.5-22 Nightforce . Unless you find a smoking deal on a used S&B thats what I'd get . Get the hi speed knobs and zero stop and either the MLR2 or MOAR reticule depending on your tastes in graduations , Mil or MOA .
    thats the excat scope i was looking at just didnt know if it would have enough magnification to reeeeaaaaalllllyyyy reach out there

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    There are 4 guy's that I shoot with for sure and more than likely more than that that run the Nightforce 22's on their 338's . They work just fine and track properly . Magnification is a really personal choice , there are guy's that I shoot with that are happy with stuff in the 12 - 15 power range and do well and there are others , me included , that like 20 - 25 .

    Get something in the range you're comfortable with that tracks and go shoot .

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    On that monster I would at least look at the 12-42NF. I know some that swear by it at 1000 and 338 is effective way further than a 1000. C WARD any down sides to the 12-42?

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