Del-Ton AR's?

[Ronin13]

I'm curious to hear what BP has to say to my question but I have put a good bit of rounds through this in the 6weeks I've owned it and I'm not sure I'd consider it entry level.

I took it to our pop-up range and qualled with it the same as I do my M4.... 34-37 out of 40 usually. Hitting 300m as well.

Its very accurate, even after firing 1,000 rounds of steel cased herters without cleaning it, reliability/accuracy was not impacted.

Entry level does not equate quality all the time- it just means it's affordable for your first system, simple, economic, and not as "fitted and finished" as others. Technically my first was a Bushmaster M4A1 (Issued ), I love my POF that I own now, and it's far from entry level... I would consider RRA, Del-Ton, and DPMS entry level as well. But again, entry level is not a synonym for POS.

[LongArmoftheLaw]

Thanks DD977! That would be great to not feel like more of a simpleton!

[car-15]

read here.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...=5&output=html
and here
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642

[NMB2]

Entry level does not equate quality all the time- it just means it's affordable for your first system, simple, economic, and not as "fitted and finished" as others. Technically my first was a Bushmaster M4A1 (Issued ), I love my POF that I own now, and it's far from entry level... I would consider RRA, Del-Ton, and DPMS entry level as well. But again, entry level is not a synonym for POS.

Yeah, I don't mean to sound like I was jumping down anyone's throat, and I am far from the subject matter expert. I have a lot of trigger time on my M4, and considered that a good comparison for my Del-Ton.... and AFAIK it is all built to the exact same spec except 1-9 twist vs 1-7... which doesn't matter much unless you're firing heavy bullets anyways...which I dont.

I have never heard anyone say anything bad about del-ton just heard it referred to as entry level and "as long as your expectations are right"... entry fit and finish....and I'm not quite sure how to take that other than quality! Sorry for my ignorance.

[clublights]

My Del-ton upper on an RRA lower has never failed me ( well a couple of failure to fire's but I blame that on 2 rounds bad out of 1000.. the primers were well dimpled)

Shoots straighter then I do so whats to complain about ?

[Colorado_Outback]

Mine is awesome, runs great.

[spleify]

I have a number of Del-Ton uppers and I would put them up against any of my BCM or Colt stuff I have also. I personally think they are an incredibly under rated piece of equipment. I have ANOTHER 20" on order with them right now in fact.

[rpm]

read here.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...=5&output=html
and here
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642

This

Educate yourself on what is out there instead of being attracted by what you think is a low price on an "entry-level" rifle. Just because it is the lowest price on the rack doesn't make it a worthwhile purchase.

Buy once, cry once.

[Great-Kazoo]

Whatever it's "considered" as long as its' not a cheap p.o.s and won't have too many problems with it. With what all you are saying about Del-Ton I'm for sure more inclined to give them more thought.

Any mfg's ar has some issues now or then. Does that mean you should pass one up, no. I have used Del-Ton since they have been on the scene, Not any issues, one time my parts were missing some small pieces and DT had them out next day, priority mail.
Slightly OT. you're listed as Denver but inquiring about NoCo dealers. Why not visit MGT or other ffl in the denver area?

[BPTactical]

Just out of curiosity..... what "fit and finish" are we talking? I personally think my del-ton is about as nice as it gets....

Keep in mind I only have shot a DPMS (which I think my del-ton is much nicer than) and my colt M4.

Fit and finish is just what it says amigo, look at the forge line on the rear of the lower. Is it nicely dressed or looks like it was cut with a torch? Machining marks, tolerances, durability of finish, magnafluxed B&BCG and barrel, accuracy of work and such contribute to where you feel an item may fall on the quality scale. Now every manufacture will have lapses but one thing I consider is how consistent of a product they put out. Many of what I feel may be a lower teir item are all over the board in the above categories.
Most of the upper teirs are very consistent and on the + side of things.
No way you can't say there is no difference in shooting between a DPMS and say a LMT, POF, Colt or other quality item.
You can feel, see and hear the difference.