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    Decent article about this.

    I find it amazing that the Left either will not accept that half of us are working to support the other half, or are just fine with it. I always remember that Margaret Thatcher quote when I hear this statistic: "They [socialists] always run out of other people's money."

    I find it equally amazing that the Right, while crying about how many people do not pay income tax, don't have a word to say about all the tax loopholes that allow monstrous corporations like GE and BofA not only to not pay a dime in taxes, but actually receive a tax return. Meanwhile, I have to write a huge check every April because the percentage they took out of my paychecks wasn't enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I find it amazing that the Left either will not accept that half of us are working to support the other half, or are just fine with it.
    They know. They're fine with it. They don't think ahead to when the money runs out, because to think ahead requires you to actually THINK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    They don't think ahead to when the money runs out
    And that, is the scary part. When the money runs out, how are the masses going to get that new pair of $300 Air Jordan's?

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    In other shocking news Romney tells us that; Trees are made of WOOD!


    I couldn't have said it better myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I find it equally amazing that the Right, while crying about how many people do not pay income tax, don't have a word to say about all the tax loopholes that allow monstrous corporations like GE and BofA not only to not pay a dime in taxes, but actually receive a tax return. Meanwhile, I have to write a huge check every April because the percentage they took out of my paychecks wasn't enough.

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    most people are in total support of a new tax code that simplifies things and closes loopholes. loopholes are the result of ridiculous governmental regulations. but the issue at hand isn't closing the loopholes, too many people are fighting scrapping the code and starting over and thats really what needs to happen to close the loopholes. the issue at hand is simply raising the taxes on the wealthy and corporations. in the current economic times, i don't think thats a good idea. so while i hate the loopholes, and hope they disappear, i don't support raising the taxes to try to recover taxes from them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    Decent article about this.

    I find it amazing that the Left either will not accept that half of us are working to support the other half, or are just fine with it. I always remember that Margaret Thatcher quote when I hear this statistic: "They [socialists] always run out of other people's money."

    I find it equally amazing that the Right, while crying about how many people do not pay income tax, don't have a word to say about all the tax loopholes that allow monstrous corporations like GE and BofA not only to not pay a dime in taxes, but actually receive a tax return. Meanwhile, I have to write a huge check every April because the percentage they took out of my paychecks wasn't enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I find it equally amazing that the Right, while crying about how many people do not pay income tax, don't have a word to say about all the tax loopholes that allow monstrous corporations like GE and BofA not only to not pay a dime in taxes, but actually receive a tax return.
    I think that's a false premise. There have been a lot of people on the right decrying tax loopholes starting with Dick Armey, Jon Kasich and Paul Ryan. In fact, IIRC the GOP agreed several times to eliminate tax loopholes if O'Bummer would agree to return to Reaganesque rates but of course the Democrats refused to even consider rate reductions.

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    I just listened to Rush on 850 while driving back from lunch, and he was talking about exactly this issue of the "secret video." He harped on the point that the dems are attack Romney now because "this video got out." It didn't get out, it is not new information, 47% are not paying taxes. The fact of the matter is, the democrats want the populace to be ignorant and dependent on them forever, they want their autonomous people to beg for their help. They say they're compassionate when Obama takes away the work requirement for welfare... what? Are you kidding. But the Republicans are evil because we want everyone to better their lives and not be dependent on the government. The government won't help you, they don't give two flying leaps about you. The government's sole purpose at the creation of this once great nation was to represent the people and their interests, and to protect them from foreign invaders. That's really, when you boil it down, about all they were intended to do. Rush also said that the republicans are in fact more compassionate because we want people to make their own way, achieve their own success, and not get hand outs from some big brother type that will only bleed those who are working and doing it on their own dry. All in all, the Republicans aren't all bad, they only want people to do things themselves, not have the government pay their bills for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I think that's a false premise. There have been a lot of people on the right decrying tax loopholes starting with Dick Armey, Jon Kasich and Paul Ryan. In fact, IIRC the GOP agreed several times to eliminate tax loopholes if O'Bummer would agree to return to Reaganesque rates but of course the Democrats refused to even consider rate reductions.
    I'm sure you're right. Not any more false than saying all Dems are socialists though, and that one gets thrown around a lot. I'm glad there are prominent Republicans proposing such common sense moves, but I wish they could just do it for the good of the country, and not because they want something in return from the Dems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I think that's a false premise. There have been a lot of people on the right decrying tax loopholes starting with Dick Armey, Jon Kasich and Paul Ryan. In fact, IIRC the GOP agreed several times to eliminate tax loopholes if O'Bummer would agree to return to Reaganesque rates but of course the Democrats refused to even consider rate reductions.
    Which Reaganesque rates? The 50% maximum marginal rate with 20% capital gains tax of his first trem or the 28% maximum marginal rate with maximum of 28% capital gains tax that ended his second term? I can't see any rich people wanting to return to those rates, especially with no loopholes/exceptions.

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