Crazy driver harasses cyclists in Boulder

[sniper7]

I just want to point out the obvious here:
It's a Speed LIMIT, not a Speed Minimum.
It's completely legal to drive as slow as you want if there is no posted minimum speed. Sure people might call you an asshole for driving under the speed limit in your Audi A8 (or on your fancy Ceepo or Kestrel bike), but it's not illegal.

Just another instance where what some may call stupid isn't illegal, but it can still get you harassed, flamed, killed, etc.

some roads do have minimum speeds posted. There are also times when drivers need to pull off the road and give way to other motorists. Just like you see slow moving semis, tractors, slow moving cars etc do. why should bikers be any different...cause they can't get off their "pace"?

[theGinsue]

My kid won't be a dipshit and spend an entire day riding his bike on 2 lane roads where vehicles are doing highway speeds. When he is an adult he can choose for himself and put his life at risk. These guys should have never been on that road to begin with. These guys didn't pull off to the side of the road when a car is honking at them. Why not take the quickest turnoff or dirt patch and stop your bike and get off. instead they continued to ride. The motorist, per the law did what he was supposed to do. He didn't pass them in the video. He honked like he was supposed to. The bikers didn't move over. I hope to see the bikers get a ticket, not the driver.

In the bikers mind they feel like they own the road. That is great in theory but they WILL lose if they get run over. The guy in the vehicle may or may not get in trouble but his body and his life are protected by a lot of steel. The ultralight bikes out there aren't going to save a bikers ass. The bikers need to think about that and GTF off the road and out of the way when vehicles are approaching.

It reminds me of the Ron White skit about the guy saying he can take on hurricane force winds. Same with these guys...I can pedal for days, I can ride 65mph down curving roads and blow through stop signs without getting ticketed.....yeah well you got a peterbuilt up your ass and a handlebar sticking out of your wind pipe.

Like I added before. If they are going to be on the "road" and be "road bikes", then they need to be plated and carry a drivers license or an ID that shows they competently passed the required knowledge test and they understand the laws of the "road". Then when they break those laws, points and fines are assessed against them. Don't like it? Don't ride on the road. Don't want to follow the laws, get a ticket and points against you.
As for the kids, a phone call to the parents from the police, or a warning by the cops should be able to do something. parenting would be the biggest issue here in my mind. Most 15+ are going to be driving anyways with a learners permit or their license. Under that I don't think you are going to see very many kids out all day on road bikes for a sunday ride. most will be in town going to the movies or a friends place.

some roads do have minimum speeds posted. There are also times when drivers need to pull off the road and give way to other motorists. Just like you see slow moving semis, tractors, slow moving cars etc do. why should bikers be any different...cause they can't get off their "pace"?

You & Me: Kindred spirits!

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[sniper7]

You & Me: Kindred spirits!

I couldn't have said it better myself.

I love having a kindred spirit!

[SouthPaw]

You & Me: Kindred spirits!

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Very well put sniper7.

[theGinsue]

While this will be unpopular with a certain percentage of you, I'm just going to put this out there - I do NOT think cyclists belong on the road. PERIOD. It is my opinion that they are a nuisance and are dangerous to themselves and those who are operating licensed motor vehicles which was the intended vehicle for road use.

Colorado has hundreds of miles of combination biking and hiking trails that are accessable to most residents.

This same problem occurs with me when going up and down Squaw Pass Rd... hundreds of cyclists every weekend go on that road, and with all the curves and what not it can get very dangerous, especially on the uphill where to your right is, at some places, 100's of feet of sheer vertical drop, I wouldn't want to be run off the road because someone is trying to safely pass a cyclist.

I've encountered cyclists on Hwy 94 (65mph limit - which is the average speed for automotive drivers) as I've been heading to or from work. While a few of them have used the WIDE shoulder to ride in, many have ridden at the ride side of the traffic lane - sometimes 2 feet to the left of the line. When I'm still rubbing sleep goo out of my eyes in the morning, driving 65mph with 5 cars close enough behind me to give me an enema and I come upon a cyclist in the roadway pushing 45mph and I can't pass due to oncoming traffic, I get a bit peeved and spooked. Laying on the brakes to avoid hitting the cyclist puts me and the other drivers behind me (and oncoming) at risk for the accident that I've narrowly avoided on a few occassions. One such person was a former coworker who was kind enough to educate me (once he arrived at work) about how it's his "right" to be there and it's actually less safe and illegal for him to ride on the shoulder. I would have really hated having the whole shop out of the office for his funeral as I looked his wife in the eyes and told her that his "right" created the situation that got him killed.

Here in the Springs, there is a section of 31st Street that runs across Garden of the Gods Road past Fontanero. This section of road runs past the Garden of the Gods Visitor Center & main entrance. It has a 30 (or 35) mph speed limit and is very narrow, very curvy and with NO shoulder. Passing on this road is limited. Just ~50 feet from this stretch of road, running essentially parallel, is a hiking/bike path. Almost every time I need to drive this road I encounter a cyclist on the road. These folks seem to get their jollies by exercising their "right" to ride on the road and create an avoidable hazardous situation. If I thought doing 30/35 mph on this stretch of road seemed slow, it's nothing compared to sitting behind a cyclist doing 20 or less (often times 15). WTF!

I just want to point out the obvious here:
It's a Speed LIMIT, not a Speed Minimum.
It's completely legal to drive as slow as you want if there is no posted minimum speed.

True, sadly there aren't many roadways with posted minimum speed limits. However, there are laws about impeding the flow of traffic. Let's face it, most folks use the speed limit as the "this is the speed you should be driving", I know I do. Anything less tends to create traffic backups, etc. All this means is that a hazardous situation is brewing and someone could be injured or killed because of it. I certainly wish there was more LE involvement (even a simple warning) for those who impede traffic. It's just as dangerous as speeding is because you're getting concentrations of cars; it's only a matter of time before someone screws up.

[HoneyBadger]

some roads do have minimum speeds posted. There are also times when drivers need to pull off the road and give way to other motorists. Just like you see slow moving semis, tractors, slow moving cars etc do. why should bikers be any different...cause they can't get off their "pace"?

I acknowledged that some roads have a minimum speed posted, but since it was not mentioned once in this case, I think it's a safe conjecture that there was no posted minimum on this road.... That being said, you are completely right about everything else you said. I'm certainly not defending the cyclists, but since they are "vehicles" that have to obey the laws of the road, they should have pulled over or yielded to the faster traffic. Simple as that.

[Monky]

I saw a bicyclist get a ticket for 'failure to obey' when he blew threw a stop sign.. it was on CU campus.. CU PD was my hero that day.

[Rucker61]

I saw a bicyclist get a ticket for 'failure to obey' when he blew threw a stop sign.. it was on CU campus.. CU PD was my hero that day.

It makes mine, and I wasn't even there.

[Silentgoldfish]

Silent again

Job done.

[Jer]

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