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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
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    I couldn't have said it better myself.
    Very well put sniper7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    some roads do have minimum speeds posted. There are also times when drivers need to pull off the road and give way to other motorists. Just like you see slow moving semis, tractors, slow moving cars etc do. why should bikers be any different...cause they can't get off their "pace"?
    I acknowledged that some roads have a minimum speed posted, but since it was not mentioned once in this case, I think it's a safe conjecture that there was no posted minimum on this road.... That being said, you are completely right about everything else you said. I'm certainly not defending the cyclists, but since they are "vehicles" that have to obey the laws of the road, they should have pulled over or yielded to the faster traffic. Simple as that.
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    I saw a bicyclist get a ticket for 'failure to obey' when he blew threw a stop sign.. it was on CU campus.. CU PD was my hero that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
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    I live in North Boulder on a street heavily used by cyclists. If I were to put a video camera out front, I'd have a very simple time recording AT LEAST 200 cyclists per hour, all day, any day of the week, blowing through the 4-way stop sign as if it didn't exist.

    I've been given the finger on multiple occasions when I proceeded at a 4-way stop when it was my turn....because a cyclist didn't see it their duty to stop at all.

    A cyclist got honked at a bit? I'm weeping in sympathy...oh, the tragedy of it all
    you should set up a cam and send it to the boulder police. email it to them and the boulder camera every day all day. maybe some state senators and congressman and get a bill set up to put these asshats in their place. either follow the laws of the road or get off it.
    Now that's the best damn idea I've ever heard! I see it in Denver all the time and one of these days they're going to get creamed (I'm very fearful that I'll be the one to do it and get sued). What the hell? Maybe there needs to be some letter writing to our state legislature for more of an eye turned to this issue and perhaps educating the public a little better that if they disregard the law they could die. We don't need more laws (well maybe a licensing requirement to have a bike on roads), but we do need more attention on things like this.
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    While this will be unpopular with a certain percentage of you, I'm just going to put this out there - I do NOT think cyclists belong on the road. PERIOD. It is my opinion that they are a nuisance and are dangerous to themselves and those who are operating licensed motor vehicles which was the intended vehicle for road use.

    Colorado has hundreds of miles of combination biking and hiking trails that are accessable to most residents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    This same problem occurs with me when going up and down Squaw Pass Rd... hundreds of cyclists every weekend go on that road, and with all the curves and what not it can get very dangerous, especially on the uphill where to your right is, at some places, 100's of feet of sheer vertical drop, I wouldn't want to be run off the road because someone is trying to safely pass a cyclist.
    I've encountered cyclists on Hwy 94 (65mph limit - which is the average speed for automotive drivers) as I've been heading to or from work. While a few of them have used the WIDE shoulder to ride in, many have ridden at the ride side of the traffic lane - sometimes 2 feet to the left of the line. When I'm still rubbing sleep goo out of my eyes in the morning, driving 65mph with 5 cars close enough behind me to give me an enema and I come upon a cyclist in the roadway pushing 45mph and I can't pass due to oncoming traffic, I get a bit peeved and spooked. Laying on the brakes to avoid hitting the cyclist puts me and the other drivers behind me (and oncoming) at risk for the accident that I've narrowly avoided on a few occassions. One such person was a former coworker who was kind enough to educate me (once he arrived at work) about how it's his "right" to be there and it's actually less safe and illegal for him to ride on the shoulder. I would have really hated having the whole shop out of the office for his funeral as I looked his wife in the eyes and told her that his "right" created the situation that got him killed.

    Here in the Springs, there is a section of 31st Street that runs across Garden of the Gods Road past Fontanero. This section of road runs past the Garden of the Gods Visitor Center & main entrance. It has a 30 (or 35) mph speed limit and is very narrow, very curvy and with NO shoulder. Passing on this road is limited. Just ~50 feet from this stretch of road, running essentially parallel, is a hiking/bike path. Almost every time I need to drive this road I encounter a cyclist on the road. These folks seem to get their jollies by exercising their "right" to ride on the road and create an avoidable hazardous situation. If I thought doing 30/35 mph on this stretch of road seemed slow, it's nothing compared to sitting behind a cyclist doing 20 or less (often times 15). WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I just want to point out the obvious here:
    It's a Speed LIMIT, not a Speed Minimum.
    It's completely legal to drive as slow as you want if there is no posted minimum speed.
    True, sadly there aren't many roadways with posted minimum speed limits. However, there are laws about impeding the flow of traffic. Let's face it, most folks use the speed limit as the "this is the speed you should be driving", I know I do. Anything less tends to create traffic backups, etc. All this means is that a hazardous situation is brewing and someone could be injured or killed because of it. I certainly wish there was more LE involvement (even a simple warning) for those who impede traffic. It's just as dangerous as speeding is because you're getting concentrations of cars; it's only a matter of time before someone screws up.
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    I'm certainly not siding with the bicyclists here, I find most of them to be incredibly arrogant about "their rights" and such BS, and they tend to piss me off. I'm just saying that the SUV in the video certainly appeared to have plenty of room to just pass right by 'em, even without going over the double yellow line. Just makes more sense to me to pass 'em and get away from 'em rather than hang right behind 'em honkin' my horn like a fool.

    Reminds me of these two fucktards that were behind me one day when I-25 still had an HOV lane. I was going well over the speed limit in the HOV lane, and these two wads were behind me honking and waving at me to move over. So I moved over, but they didn't speed up, they stayed in the HOV lane at the same speed, glaring at me because I dared to be a solo driver in THEIR HOV lane. Apparently they felt the need to be HOV lane police or whatever, but weren't smart enough to realize that the HOV rules were only for certain times of the day, and it was 2.5 hours outside that window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    I'm just saying that the SUV in the video certainly appeared to have plenty of room to just pass right by 'em, even without going over the double yellow line. Just makes more sense to me to pass 'em and get away from 'em rather than hang right behind 'em honkin' my horn like a fool.
    There is no way he could pass them with 3 feet of space as mandated by the law and not cross the double yellow line. None. It certainly seemed safe to cross the line to pass them but that wouldn't have been legal.

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    I've seen Boulder PD ticket douche bags on bikes for running stop signs... I love those cops...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    I saw a bicyclist get a ticket for 'failure to obey' when he blew threw a stop sign.. it was on CU campus.. CU PD was my hero that day.
    It makes mine, and I wasn't even there.

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