Bill would ban guns on CU

[Adawg38]

http://www.9news.com/news/local/arti...CU-to-ban-guns

Hope this is not a repost, but didn't see it. I know it's not much news but they won't give up!

[speedysst]

I thought this issue had been decided by the State Supreme Court already.

[Adawg38]

Her proposed legislation is in response to a state supreme court ruling this past March that threw out the University of Colorado's long standing ban of guns on campus. The policy had been successfully challenged by Students for Concealed Carry.

"The supreme court ruled that when the legislature passed the Concealed Carry Act in 2003, the legislators made the decision to allow concealed carry everywhere in the state, including college campuses," says Jim Manley with Mountain States Legal Foundation, the attorney who represented Students for Concealed Carry.

CU complied with the ruling by the state supreme court but concerns from university faculty members have come with it.

"What really motivated me to do this was the faculty members, who reached out to me and said, 'wait a minute; are you saying that I have to teach in a classroom in which somebody may be carrying a gun and I don't know it,'" Levy said.

"What I'm planning to do is introduce legislation that would allow CU to make the decision whether or not to allow guns on campus," she explained. "I'm not going to have a bill that requires a ban or prohibits anything. I really think that the regents are the appropriate body to make the decision whether or not guns should be allowed on campus."

[brutal]

"What really motivated me to do this was the faculty members, who reached out to me and said, 'wait a minute; are you saying that I have to teach in a classroom in which somebody may be carrying a gun and I don't know it,'" Levy said.

And these are educators.

"What really motivated me to do this was the faculty members, who reached out to me and said, 'wait a minute; are you saying that I have to teach in a classroom in which somebody may be LEGALLY carrying a gun and I don't know it,'" Levy said.

Fixed it for them. Yes you do moron.

[spqrzilla]

I thought this issue had been decided by the State Supreme Court already.

The Colorado Supreme Court stated that the Legislature's acts could not be ignored by CU. If the bill passed and Gov loopie signed it, CU would be able to enforce its ban.

[theGinsue]

Adawg & spqrzilla are correct.

Frankly, I'm baffled that anyone is surprised by this - particularly with the recent round of balking from the CU Regents.

Let me lay this out:
The PEOPLE of Colorado finally got it's elected officially to listen to them and pass this original piece of legislation that gave state level recognition of our Second Amendment rights.

The Regents of CU, believing that they are their own entity which can determine their own rules, laws, and manner of operating, felt that the laws of the State didn't apply to them. As such, they continued to restrict the Peoples 2A rights. After all, everyone knows that by prohibiting guns, bad guys can't/won't violate the force shield of regulation enacted by the All Powerful Regents of CU. They said "We are supreme beings of logic and science and have the insight to know that these inanimate object are truly vile and evil. These are the borders of our Utopia and those evil guns Shall Not Pass!"

This decision was challenged in the Courts by the People. The Courts decided that CU is an entity of the State and must abide by the laws of the State, without the freedom to pick and choose what they want to follow. The Courts said "the legislature has spoken".

With their panties in a twist because they were told they aren't as high & mighty as they believed, the Regents of CU began looking at the law and at the Courts decision. "You will not tell us what we can and can not do" was their cry. As collegiate "educators" which equates to being smarter than the rest of us, they found the chink in the Courts decision. "If we get the legislature to amend the law, we can regain our control".

And so it came to pass that the Regents of CU found a champion in a left-wind liberal gun-hater who had introduced legislation to correct the error previously made by the legislature which limited the control that the Regents of CU could wield.

The rest of the story is, as of yet, untold.

[Teufelhund]

Ginsue, that was just great.

[Teufelhund]

This video is a couple years old, but it is most of the best gun control arguments wrapped up in 10 minutes.



Stossel is the man.

[DD977GM2]

She needs to be voted out of office

[Ronin13]

I sent her an email:

Dear Mrs. Levy,
I recently read an article posted by 9News about your intent to introduce legislation that would allow colleges to ban guns on their campus. Coming off of the CO Supreme Court decision to allow Coloradans to exercise their right to lawfully carry a concealed firearm on college campuses I find your behavior to be very short sighted and it further proves your lack of knowledge of the facts. I'm writing you now to hopefully educate you and perhaps to persuade you to cease this legislation before the next session. I understand that many of your constituents in Boulder are opposed to guns, and perhaps you are as well, but need I remind you that the second amendment to our US Constitution guarantees our right to keep and bear arms, just like the first amendment guarantees our right to free speech. To make a comparison, you may not like what someone has to say, but it is their first amendment right to say it, conversely, you may not like guns, but it is a person's right to keep and bear them.

With this legislation, what are you hoping to accomplish? Banning guns from Colleges does only one thing, takes them away from law abiding students who would otherwise be well within their rights to have the means to defend themselves in an unspeakable, and horrible situation. Because I would hope that it is common knowledge that criminals don't really concern themselves with what is and what is not legal. Effectively, the quote "When you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns" comes to mind in this situation. Furthermore, I must emphasize, around our great state people carry guns legally all the time. I ask you, as a representative of a portion of our population, what is the difference between Colorado University campus, and say the Whole Foods Market just a block south of the campus? They're both populated areas, they're both, as of right now, locations where it is legal to carry a concealed firearm, and they both are within the limits of Boulder. So what is the difference if someone carries there, or on campus? I'll tell you, there isn't any. So because one is a place of higher education you and the bold anti-gun folks of Boulder wish to restrict a person's right to exercise their Constitutionally protected right? I'd like you to look into the facts on this please Mrs. Levy, you'll find that locations with strict gun control legislation (such as Washington D.C., New York City, and Los Angeles) have a higher crime rate than those that have looser gun control laws. Why is this? Because law-abiding citizens rarely, if ever, break the law. When you have a polite, armed, and law-abiding society, criminals will fear that these folks will present a more challenging group of victims than one that is, by law, restricted from carrying the means to defend themselves. I cannot stress enough that your proposal to enact legislation that would restrict our freedoms is just simply flat out wrong, and the Regents at CU are also wrong for wanting to ban guns from their campus. If you do in fact go through with this, I will do my best to persuade my friends, clients, family, and acquaintances to take their education, business, and residence out of Boulder and allow your anti-freedom utopia to operate without those of us who uphold the Constitution, the same constitution I took an oath before my nation and the officers appointed above me to support and defend as a member of our armed forces, the same Constitution you seem to hold in such low regard.

Thank you for your time,
Ryan XXXXXXXX