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    They should be able to isolate the HVAC system and only shut off the affected unit.

    I am an environmental scientist and have done a lot of mold work. First thing to know is mod is ubiquitous in the environment. It is only an issue indoors if there is an amplification or different species when compared to outdoor. Some people are more sensitive than others and some can become "sensitized" where even low levels cause problems.

    Cleanup is very similar to asbestos if the mod growth is large. Basically the area is isolated, negative pressure is established to keep all spores and other mold particles in the work area, all replaceable materials are removed and disposed of, non-replaceable materials are cleaned with a 5% bleach solution or a commercial fungicide and then painted with Kilz or another primer.

    Once the cleanup is complete clearance sampling is typically done. Samples are are collected inside the work area and outside at the same time. The results are compared to see ii there is a difference in number or species.

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    1st thing wrong
    How long did it take for ins co to handle the water abatement and installation of fans for drying. Every day is one less day of work.

    2nd
    She should have renters ins to cover her losses

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    You should have renters or other ins to cover lose of use from fire, water damage etc.

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    Screw her. Get your own co in to handle water damage and also a mold inspection. You are an ins co are you not??
    What would you have done if a client called with this problem?

    It's CO, Mold while not a major problem can cause lots of headaches down the road. Even money says she starts having issues breathing, sneezing, headaches on & on & on. Not to take away form those of us sensitive to such items.

    My guess is she might be late on a payment or two and her pot-o-gold has arrived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    1st thing wrong
    How long did it take for ins co to handle the water abatement and installation of fans for drying. Every day is one less day of work.
    SERVPRO was here as of Monday after the incident (or it could have been Sunday evening). They jumped on it quickly...
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    She should have renters ins to cover her losses
    She does, but it's only the personal property- our coverage for the whole building is covering the lump of the loss.
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    You should have renters or other ins to cover lose of use from fire, water damage etc.
    We do... We have the entire building covered via the HOA, then each unit has their own renter's/tenant ins.
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    Screw her. Get your own co in to handle water damage and also a mold inspection. You are an ins co are you not??
    What would you have done if a client called with this problem?
    On that now, it's just a huge headache because our ins adjuster is incompetent and has only been here twice now...
    It's CO, Mold while not a major problem can cause lots of headaches down the road. Even money says she starts having issues breathing, sneezing, headaches on & on & on. Not to take away form those of us sensitive to such items.

    My guess is she might be late on a payment or two and her pot-o-gold has arrived.
    Today is the day- we've had a buzz of activity and hopefully they'll figure out the mold situation. The crappy part is, the boss is out of the office this morning and I'm here by myself for most of the morning. Already had to manage 2 phone calls and one of those times were when the inspectors came in- sorry guys, but the customers take priority right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Today is the day- we've had a buzz of activity and hopefully they'll figure out the mold situation. The crappy part is, the boss is out of the office this morning and I'm here by myself for most of the morning. Already had to manage 2 phone calls and one of those times were when the inspectors came in- sorry guys, but the customers take priority right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    Jim Jim paging Jim
    Sorry guys been dealing with people for 2-3 hrs whose grasp of english let alone any language is below what my mixed breed dog understands.
    It's amazing how many places will try and slip an "extra charge" on a bill. Until you call them on it.

    Ronin gets a pass. besides you highlighted what he said.
    Ronins next post will read

    Can you believe it the ins company blew us off. Said they were busy with valid claims

    BESIDES I JUST WENT OFF ON Dwalker or what ever the %^& his name is regarding his issue with the TP forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Ronin gets a pass. besides you highlighted what he said.
    Ronins next post will read

    Can you believe it the ins company blew us off. Said they were busy with valid claims

    BESIDES I JUST WENT OFF ON Dwalker or what ever the %^& his name is regarding his issue with the TP forums.
    No they didn't blow us off- they neglected us altogether. But they're working on it now, and I guess the guys have been working all day on seeing the extent of everything and then we'll finally have something to take to the ins co and get the ball rolling.

    By the way Jim, having been on the receiving end of your wrath and "I've had enough", well said in the TP rant thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    They should be able to isolate the HVAC system and only shut off the affected unit.

    I am an environmental scientist and have done a lot of mold work. First thing to know is mod is ubiquitous in the environment. It is only an issue indoors if there is an amplification or different species when compared to outdoor. Some people are more sensitive than others and some can become "sensitized" where even low levels cause problems.

    Cleanup is very similar to asbestos if the mod growth is large. Basically the area is isolated, negative pressure is established to keep all spores and other mold particles in the work area, all replaceable materials are removed and disposed of, non-replaceable materials are cleaned with a 5% bleach solution or a commercial fungicide and then painted with Kilz or another primer.

    Once the cleanup is complete clearance sampling is typically done. Samples are are collected inside the work area and outside at the same time. The results are compared to see ii there is a difference in number or species.
    Is the health risk really comparable to asbestos? If not why are such stringent containment measures warranted? Wont high levels of ozone kill mold? Tell us more about common species, inquiring minds want to know?

    http://www.4o3.us/ozone_generators.html

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