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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I will vote against Amendment 64.

    Not because I oppose legalization of recreational use of MJ, actually I support that. But it has to be done correctly within the law.

    It has to be "legalized" at the federal level first (if nothing else because frankly federal laws against MJ are another example of the abuse of the "commerce clause").

    THEN states can pass laws allowing it.

    Even then I will vote against them until there are several other states where its legal.


    Whatever state legalizes pot first will become so over-run with liberal pothead idiots that every other aspect of politics, government, law and the economy will be ruined.

    Since the vast majority of the hardcore pot crowd* are also socialist, gun control supporting idiots, they'll join the too-many liberals already here and make Colorado unlivable (and worse than California) in short order.


    * those who would be motivated enough to relocate because of the law.
    READ THE TENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION!
    Also the Federal Government has only
    18 powers enumerated!


    Time to get our states back. Over 50% of land in our state is owned by the Feds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rust_shackleford View Post
    READ THE TENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION!
    Also the Federal Government has only
    18 powers enumerated!


    Time to get our states back. Over 50% of land in our state is owned by the Feds.
    I agree with your sentiment, but actually the Fed owns 36.2% of CO. It's way too high, but not "over 50%".
    Last edited by Sawin; 09-26-2012 at 17:03. Reason: I had the wrong % originally. Off by 0.4%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawin View Post
    I agree with your sentiment, but actually the Fed owns 36.6% of CO. It's way too high, but not "over 50%".
    http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/p...W=588&imgH=450

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rust_shackleford View Post
    Yep, while that map is 100% accurate, the white space in between all those colors actually does add up to quite a bit.

    See page 4 of this PDF from the Congressional Research Service in February. It breaks down all the states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rust_shackleford View Post
    READ THE TENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION!
    Also the Federal Government has only
    18 powers enumerated!


    Time to get our states back. Over 50% of land in our state is owned by the Feds.
    ^^^^^^ Thanks for informing him!

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    Well in about 15 or 20 years there won't be anyone in congress that didn't play Grand Theft Auto.... So change is inevitable. And if you don't know what Grand Theft Auto is.....then we are definitely not in the same generation.

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    Ill be voting no, even though I believe it should be legal. I just dont want CO to be the first. But ask yourselves this. Why is a highly addictive drug (booze) that can turn an otherwise peaceful person violent, beating small children and kicking the crap out of the wife, completely legal. BUT a low addictive drug that has virtually no negative side effects, other than the munchies and the giggles illegal? One can not OD on weed, its a chemical impossibility. They (the scientists) now have a way to tell if a person has smoked within the past few hours, so they CAN tell if your baked behind the wheel.

    Personally, I would rather share the road with a stoned person vs a drunk person. Its NOT a gateway drug, hell I smoked a bit of weed in high school/college and I wasnt running out in the street trying to score heroin. Some of you need to young up a bit.

    One of the reasons weed was made illegal was racial. The lawyer claimed that it " turns negros into a bat that fly around and rape white women"

    All im trying to say is its not black tar or anything. Its safer than booze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    It has to be "legalized" at the federal level first (if nothing else because frankly federal laws against MJ are another example of the abuse of the "commerce clause").
    Last year or the year before Montana passed a law that exempts it from NFA regulations, as long as the items are manufactured and sold within the state.

    That provides a precedent for marijuana, since it's all manufactured, bought and consumed within the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I will vote against Amendment 64.

    Not because I oppose legalization of recreational use of MJ, actually I support that. But it has to be done correctly within the law.

    It has to be "legalized" at the federal level first (if nothing else because frankly federal laws against MJ are another example of the abuse of the "commerce clause").

    THEN states can pass laws allowing it.

    Even then I will vote against them until there are several other states where its legal.


    Whatever state legalizes pot first will become so over-run with liberal pothead idiots that every other aspect of politics, government, law and the economy will be ruined.

    Since the vast majority of the hardcore pot crowd* are also socialist, gun control supporting idiots, they'll join the too-many liberals already here and make Colorado unlivable (and worse than California) in short order.


    * those who would be motivated enough to relocate because of the law.
    Although I understand your reasoning here I find one major flaw, fact is that is what has went wrong with our country, The Federal gov has become powerful in a way they were never intended to by the founding fathers. Laws were supposed to be controlled from the local/state level up, not the fed down. I do not smoke weed, frankly I am not a fan of folks that I have met who do, HOWEVER, it is a fact that this is the way things were intended to work in this nation, and without a top down approach the gun laws that cripple law abiding citizens may very well only exist in the places we don't want to live anyway.
    "Those who would trade liberty for safety deserve neither"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I will vote against Amendment 64.

    Not because I oppose legalization of recreational use of MJ, actually I support that. But it has to be done correctly within the law.

    It has to be "legalized" at the federal level first (if nothing else because frankly federal laws against MJ are another example of the abuse of the "commerce clause").

    THEN states can pass laws allowing it.

    Even then I will vote against them until there are several other states where its legal.


    Whatever state legalizes pot first will become so over-run with liberal pothead idiots that every other aspect of politics, government, law and the economy will be ruined.

    Since the vast majority of the hardcore pot crowd* are also socialist, gun control supporting idiots, they'll join the too-many liberals already here and make Colorado unlivable (and worse than California) in short order.


    * those who would be motivated enough to relocate because of the law.
    Spot on that. I concur. Let them legalize it somewhere else, then tax the hell out of it.

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