Amendment 64...

[Sawin]

As I stated before, this is why I'm voting against it even though I support MJ legalization.

We become the only state to legalize MJ and we'll end up becoming California (or worse). You can kiss any chance of future conservative leadership goodbye and expect a massive increase in spending, taxes and ruinous regulations. I figure the first thing these new hard-left Coloradoans will do is dismantle TABOR. And if the winds ever blow in favor of gun control again you can kiss our shall-issue CCW system and NFA friendly sheriffs goodbye too.


Now if the Federal Government were to de-criminalize MJ at the Federal level first, And then there were several other states passing legalization laws at the same time (or better yet, before us) I'd gladly vote for it.

My thoughts exactly.

[Zundfolge]

... but it's pretty easy to tell someone is stoned, you just can't prove it very easily on a legal basis so someone can get away with it if they have a good lawyer.

You don't need a breathalyser or blood test to get a solid conviction on DUI, all you need is for the officer to demonstrate that you failed the roadside sobriety test.

Years ago I had a friend that was a professional painter. One day he forgot his breathing aparatus so he did the job without it (dumb) and drove home. Got pulled over, the breathalyser results said he had something like 20 times the lethal dose of alcohol in his system. He also failed the roadside sobriety test. He hadn't had a drop to drink.

Judge threw out the breathalyser results since he was clearly not dead 20 times over and he still got convicted of the DUI based solely on the failure of the roadside sobriety test.

[Irving]

As I stated before, this is why I'm voting against it even though I support MJ legalization.

We become the only state to legalize MJ and we'll end up becoming California (or worse). You can kiss any chance of future conservative leadership goodbye and expect a massive increase in spending, taxes and ruinous regulations. I figure the first thing these new hard-left Coloradoans will do is dismantle TABOR. And if the winds ever blow in favor of gun control again you can kiss our shall-issue CCW system and NFA friendly sheriffs goodbye too.


Now if the Federal Government were to de-criminalize MJ at the Federal level first, And then there were several other states passing legalization laws at the same time (or better yet, before us) I'd gladly vote for it.

Do you feel that this is different than the way that Montana bucked the Feds by trying to make local machine guns legal, even though they weren't Federally? Do you feel the same?

[Great-Kazoo]

It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, but just to reiterate and bring something back to the forefront of our minds. I suggest we all consider carefully, what impact amendment 64 will have on the future politics of our state... What impact might it have on the decisions of families considering a move to or from Colorado?

As we all know, most Coloradans are not native to our state. We are the 3rd fastest growing state in the country and Colorado Conservation Trust has projected that we'll continue adding roughly 105,000 new residents PER YEAR through 2040.

With an amendment like 64 passing, it seems to me like we'll be guaranteeing that CO is no longer a swing state.... IMHO, we'd be cementing our Blue vote heretofore.

Yes or not on 64. bad news guys CO has been blue for some time.
Ritter then hinkypooper as .gov, pearlmutter and polis as state reps. Pat Schroeder then DeGette in office and never coming close to loosing their seat due to close voting.
BG checks at gunshows voted in by dems, libs AND sensible, conscience voting gun owners.

The independent voter pulls the lever for who ever will give them what they want to hear. This year might be different but don't count on R if he does taking CO by many votes.
Yep Blue we be

[Rust_shackleford]

Yes or not on 64. bad news guys CO has been blue for some time.
Ritter then hinkypooper as .gov, pearlmutter and polis as state reps. Pat Schroeder then DeGette in office and never coming close to loosing their seat due to close voting.
BG checks at gunshows voted in by dems, libs AND sensible, conscience voting gun owners.

The independent voter pulls the lever for who ever will give them what they want to hear. This year might be different but don't count on R if he does taking CO by many votes.
Yep Blue we be

Yep and out West we have to suffer with Denver's liberal BS

[Ronin13]

Yes or not on 64. bad news guys CO has been blue for some time.
Ritter then hinkypooper as .gov, pearlmutter and polis as state reps. Pat Schroeder then DeGette in office and never coming close to loosing their seat due to close voting.
BG checks at gunshows voted in by dems, libs AND sensible, conscience voting gun owners.

The independent voter pulls the lever for who ever will give them what they want to hear. This year might be different but don't count on R if he does taking CO by many votes.
Yep Blue we be

This is what pisses me off... I love CO so much, I was born and raised here and still think it's the best place to live (after living in 4 other states during my military service)... but I hate how we're so 2A friendly (for now), sportsman friendly, and outdoorsy friendly, but so many damn hippies and libturds that can potentially mess up the whole damn thing- I realize they'll respect the hunting passions that Coloradans have, but what about shooting? I like my "hi-cap clips" () and my "military style assault rifles"...

[USAFGopherMike]

I will vote against Amendment 64.

Not because I oppose legalization of recreational use of MJ, actually I support that. But it has to be done correctly within the law.

It has to be "legalized" at the federal level first (if nothing else because frankly federal laws against MJ are another example of the abuse of the "commerce clause").

THEN states can pass laws allowing it.

Even then I will vote against them until there are several other states where its legal.


Whatever state legalizes pot first will become so over-run with liberal pothead idiots that every other aspect of politics, government, law and the economy will be ruined.

Since the vast majority of the hardcore pot crowd* are also socialist, gun control supporting idiots, they'll join the too-many liberals already here and make Colorado unlivable (and worse than California) in short order.


* those who would be motivated enough to relocate because of the law.

Spot on that. I concur. Let them legalize it somewhere else, then tax the hell out of it.

[Teufelhund]

Question for the law-savvy: If this Amendment passes, how would it impact existing State law which makes use/sale a criminal offense? Surely both can not exist, right?

[Circuits]

To the extent that new statutes conflict with older statutes, the older statues become invalid - the principle of legislative supremacy.

[OneGuy67]

To the extent that new statutes conflict with older statutes, the older statues become invalid - the principle of legislative supremacy.

We aren't talking about conflicting statutes. Amendment 64 is a state Constitution Amendment, which will supersede any statute. Hence, the main crux of the issue/discussion of it. Far too easy to amend the state constitution and an issue like this should be handled at the legislator/statute level, not at the amendment level.