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    Time for the Colorado Tourism Board to kick start their newest ad campaign. Why bother flying to Amsterdam and deal with the hassles of traveling between countries andhaving an awful exchange rate? Buy Amreican! Plan your pot filled trip to Colorado today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong001 View Post
    Time for the Colorado Tourism Board to kick start their newest ad campaign. Why bother flying to Amsterdam and deal with the hassles of traveling between countries andhaving an awful exchange rate? Buy Amreican! Plan your pot filled trip to Colorado today!
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    I haven't read all the posts in this thread so forgive me if this has been explained and pm me if you'd prefer. I just see a glaring hole in this.

    Now that whatever amount is legal why would anybody go to a dispensory to buy it and pay a tax on it?
    Obviously weed is everywhere (except in my house) so how would this generate ANY tax at all? Who the hell is going to be happy paying a tax on something that is widely available without paying a tax on it? Why would someone not keep getting 'bootleg' dope like they have been all these years and avoid the tax? They can't stop drugs flowing in as it is, so now tax it and they think they can? Maybe a few honest medical users will use the dispensories but I can't believe that's anywhere near a majority of users. I just envision people throwing it in our faces now that it's legal and it generates little to nothing.

    Enlighten me how this will generate millions in tax dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    I haven't read all the posts in this thread so forgive me if this has been explained and pm me if you'd prefer. I just see a glaring hole in this.

    Now that whatever amount is legal why would anybody go to a dispensory to buy it and pay a tax on it?
    Obviously weed is everywhere (except in my house) so how would this generate ANY tax at all? Who the hell is going to be happy paying a tax on something that is widely available without paying a tax on it? Why would someone not keep getting 'bootleg' dope like they have been all these years and avoid the tax? They can't stop drugs flowing in as it is, so now tax it and they think they can? Maybe a few honest medical users will use the dispensories but I can't believe that's anywhere near a majority of users. I just envision people throwing it in our faces now that it's legal and it generates little to nothing.

    Enlighten me how this will generate millions in tax dollars.
    Oh snap! I never thought of it this way! How does LE figure out if you're in possession of store bought weed or garage-grown weed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    Ephedrine, or more commonly pseudoephedrine is still legal (have to get from behind the counter). Amphetamines (commonly derived from ephedrine) are schedule II.
    Sure, OK. The difference in chemical structures of amphetamine and ephedrine hydrochloride comes down to two changes; a hydroxyl group is swapped out for a ethyl group and amine group is chlorinated. The changes are primarily done to change a drug from a semi-soluble to a salt which is completely soluble. The reason amphetamine was put on the schedule was because it's not practical to administer to the average patient in it's raw form, so it had very little pharmaceutical viability. Technically, Ephedrine and pseudoephedrin are different from amphetamine, but it's the difference between 'chartreuse' and 'sea green'. They are both green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Oh snap! I never thought of it this way! How does LE figure out if you're in possession of store bought weed or garage-grown weed?
    Pretty simple, the infrastructure to get weed from point A to point B illegally costs money, protecting it requires goons, and the high-risk (relatively speaking compared to a counter store employee) of being a dealer requires a much larger cut of the profits.

    The result is, weed from dispensaries, even now, is cheaper and of higher quality than that available on the street.

    Running an illegal op isn't cheap. If you look into the economics of it you can see why there are 1000-10000% markups for most common street drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Sure, OK. The difference in chemical structures of amphetamine and ephedrine hydrochloride comes down to two changes; a hydroxyl group is swapped out for a ethyl group and amine group is chlorinated. The changes are primarily done to change a drug from a semi-soluble to a salt which is completely soluble. The reason amphetamine was put on the schedule was because it's not practical to administer to the average patient in it's raw form, so it had very little pharmaceutical viability. Technically, Ephedrine and pseudoephedrin are different from amphetamine, but it's the difference between 'chartreuse' and 'sea green'. They are both green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    Pretty simple, the infrastructure to get weed from point A to point B illegally costs money, protecting it requires goons, and the high-risk (relatively speaking compared to a counter store employee) of being a dealer requires a much larger cut of the profits.

    The result is, weed from dispensaries, even now, is cheaper and of higher quality than that available on the street.

    Running an illegal op isn't cheap. If you look into the economics of it you can see why there are 1000-10000% markups for most common street drugs.
    High cost? Are you talking about cartel level? The dealers I know grow their own shit, have very little overhead, and if they play it smart, very little risk or competition.
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    If that really is the case, cheaper and better at a dispensory, then I can understand the argument. Not running in those circles, I do find that 'cheaper' part to be hard to accept. That said, I hope you're right.

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    Well thankfully this passed. Now we won't waste tax dollars on prohibition. I could care less what some pot smoker is doing. But the prohibition we have been living under has been doing verifiable harm to the nation. Time to quite wasting tax dollars and instead tax it and pay down the national debt (will not fix it all but its more revenue). Heck the current way the DEA funds itself makes it so if a DEA agent finds a field of skunk weed growing wild (the hemp version) they can cite that as a bust and get tax money for it. We waste countless resources on this when we could be better allocating that on things that really matter.

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