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    Default anyone else like to have some guns "off the books"?

    I guess visiting too many gun forums has made me paranoid that stormtroopers are going to come knocking at my door one day. All my current guns were purchased through an FFL so they are "on the books" as they say and could likely be traced back to my doorstep by the government if they chose to.

    I've recently decided to (probably) sell a 1911 and buy an HK USPc 45 and the thought has returned that perhaps I should buy my new handgun through a FTF transaction instead of through an FFL so it won't be so easily tracable in the event that the the ATF shows up at my doorstep one day.

    I suppose it probably doesn't matter. I'm sure that the government will rely on honest citizens to turn in all their guns and rat out their neighbors instead of actually doing door-to-door searches.

    Perhaps there's just something reassuring about knowing that big brother ISN'T watching every single gun I own.

    *removes the tinfoil hat*

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    I had a tragic boating accident last weekend all my guns are at the bottom of lake meade.
    "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." (Edmund Burke 1784)

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    PsychoI3oy
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    Over half my firearms were FTF, and the two that weren't are the .22 and my 12ga.

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    what guns?
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    Honestly if you have ever bought even one gun through an FFL then you're "on the books" (assuming the ATF ever pulls together all the 4473s to start going door to door).

    So unless you started your collection with "off paper" guns, "they" will know you're a gun owner.

    If the confiscation day ever comes, I expect those of us that got rid of our guns in advance are going to have the toughest time of it ... pretty much expect your home to be trashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoI3oy View Post
    Over half my firearms were FTF, and the two that weren't are the .22 and my 12ga.

    i think you might need more guns.

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    All the guns I 'did' own were either lost in the 'Great ARFCOM Boating Accident of 2007' or were sold FTF to individuals in state. At the present time, I'm unable to locate the bill of sales for all those sold. I've had bad luck boating and my paper organizing skills suck. The only one I do still have is my M11/9 SMG and I do have the Form 4 for it, at least all was not lost.

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    yay for movign to an undisclosed location in arizona

    And i have 2 guns off the books a rifle and a pistol. I plan on getting more, I am paranoid much like yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    Sold all mine, computer crashed so I dont have names anymore. I kinda remember one dude had a beard tho, another was heavyset, if that helps.
    It wasn't me though ......
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    You guys own real guns?

    All I have left is air-soft and pictures from the intraweb!

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