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    So this weekend our neighbor came by and we were talking about how aggressive the elk have been acting this year, more so than any previous year- even the cows are a little too aggressive. Then he showed us a picture of one of our other neighbors' car that got attacked by a bull elk as they were driving out of their driveway. The back end is pretty messed up and there is a hole in the rear quarterpanel from the elk's antlers. The person was scared to death during this incident. So I ask, if an elk is attacking your car, while you're in it, and you legitimately fear for your life, are you allowed to use deadly force against the animal to protect yourself? I am never leaving home without my gun ever again, especially during this mating season.
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    Are you suggesting that if you are in your car and in fear for your life that it's a better idea to get out of your car and try to shoot the elk rather than just drive away?

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    DOW has all the answers to wildlife concerns.

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    If there was a threat from a 2 legged creature would you flee in your car or get out?

    If the ans is #2 you need to attend any quality CCW class.
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    I believe all you have to do is yell, "It's coming right for us." Then shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    So I ask, if an elk is attacking your car, while you're in it, and you legitimately fear for your life, are you allowed to use deadly force against the animal to protect yourself?
    Its pretty unlikely that an elk can attack a car with sufficient force to harm someone inside but the response is to drive away.

    In some sort of weird situation where you'd lost the car glass and the vehicle was inoperative, sure - shoot the elk. But you better have a good set of evidence to back up your story because no DOW officer is going to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCCrawler View Post
    Are you suggesting that if you are in your car and in fear for your life that it's a better idea to get out of your car and try to shoot the elk rather than just drive away?
    Not saying get out- I mean from the car- say if the elk is on the driver side and trying to turn your car into swiss cheese and there is not much option to drive away, are you allowed to open fire?
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    lol @ "not much option to drive away." If you run across one big and bad enough to disable your car, let us know. I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who would like to come hunt down an animal that size.
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    Jim you forget who is asking this question.. it would mess up a BMW and that is just unacceptable.

    If at first asking the elk to stop smashing your BMW does not work, you should push the panic button inside the car.. Don't have one? You should have gotten a Mercedes.

    Drive away..it's why you have insurance..but you know that seeing as you work for you dad and complain about the fat lady enough.

    Should the elk continue to pursue after your attempt to out run him at 65+ mph, hopefully you don't become further infuriated by the people doing the speed limit while the elk is still keeping pace and attacking your vehicle, obviously preventing you from eluding the elk.

    Then.. I think you could shoot. Just hang out the car window, drive w/ your feet and blast away. I do hope that you aren't carrying a 9mm though, we know that won't stop an enraged elk.. studies have shown.

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    Take one for the team!!

    If some suffers minor injury then you may be able to convince the DOW it was necessary.

    Better idea check for private land cow tags for Units 394 and 461 which are unlimited. Shot elk, tag it, problem solved with lots of elk steak to boot.

    If too many people close and cannot shot use archery equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Jim you forget who is asking this question.. it would mess up a BMW and that is just unacceptable.

    If at first asking the elk to stop smashing your BMW does not work, you should push the panic button inside the car.. Don't have one? You should have gotten a Mercedes.

    Drive away..it's why you have insurance..but you know that seeing as you work for you dad and complain about the fat lady enough.

    Should the elk continue to pursue after your attempt to out run him at 65+ mph, hopefully you don't become further infuriated by the people doing the speed limit while the elk is still keeping pace and attacking your vehicle, obviously preventing you from eluding the elk.

    Then.. I think you could shoot. Just hang out the car window, drive w/ your feet and blast away. I do hope that you aren't carrying a 9mm though, we know that won't stop an enraged elk.. studies have shown.

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