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    dont get me started on my opinions of law enforcement, but it sounds like you had one that was lazy... reminds me of the scene in the big lebowski where "the dude" picks his car up from impound and he asks the attendant if theres any leads on the case, and the guy laughs and mocks him by saying they have 5 more detectives on the case.....

    Anyways, sorry for your loss, everything is a learning experience, if not an alarm system, a gun safe that you have to have delivered by 5 large Samoans as well as anchoring it to the floor will definitely keep that happening again. I keep my prized firearms in my uncles safe, which was delivered by a truck bed mounted crane and not able to be brought into a house but had to be placed on a concrete pad in the garage, and also anchored.

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    The cop didn't answer either of my 2 calls to her so obviously no help from them. I'll just do my own thing, and see where they goes. Even though I couldn't prove a teen cashing in $170 in quarters were my quarters it would tell me who did it, and there are things that could be done from that point on. The good thing is insurance will cover the replacement cost of the safe, guns money and ipod and fix the door frame. I guess I'm just shocked that a small town cop knows 2 teens from the neighborhood now have guns and just blows it off. How will she feel if the little bastard pops a cop with it? I know how I'll feel. The next gun safe will be secured to the floor, because that is the 1 thing I believe I may have been able to do to avoid this.

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    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=family
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=family

    after taxes they're about the same as having them shipped. Local sale was $517.27

    Which is just over my deductible.

    It's supposed to be plug and play, we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202 View Post
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=family
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=family

    after taxes they're about the same as having them shipped. Local sale was $517.27

    Which is just over my deductible.

    It's supposed to be plug and play, we'll see.
    the only thing that sucks about that, is you have video of what was stolen and maybe who stole it depending on the garb of the intruder and the angle of camera... but doesn't stop them from stealing it... Also, they are already inside, so the battle (for them) is half over, and what you might get is a broken $500 camera system in addition to your crap getting jacked. whats needed is a deterrent, or levels of deterrents, because nothing is "theft proof" so we use theft deterrents. If the camera is in plain sight, however, THAT is a deterrent, which is why dummy cameras are sold, which is a fake camera with an LED light showing its operating... some of the more fancier ones rotate or sweep the room with their "lens".

    If i were to design something or suggest something, id say layer your deterrents..... Put valuables in the heavy safe that is also bolted to the floor, and have a security system installed. By security system, i mean an ADT or the like type system that sends a signal to the company, who notifies police, as well as loud sirens. (sometimes the most effective deterrent is the most simple, which is the ADT sign sticking by the windows.) The loud sirens attract eyes, and also makes the thieves scram. also make it hard for them to get in. you can plant thorny bushes by all windows, install a steel door and steel frame on all outside doors, lock your gates leading to the backyards, i could go o0n and on all day. Heres one of the more basic things..... use what you have..... lock your doors, put your shit in your safe, hide your safe (out of sight out of mind) because even though my uncle had to have his installed in his garage, he built a small room for it, so nobody sees it. It has no doorknob, just a push type of latch kinda like a secret compartment. just looking at it, you wouldn't question, "I wonder what that is." you just dont see it.

    Anyways, for a very short time i was a security consultant, feel free to PM with any questions you might have. I might not be able to answer them all, but i will definitely try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhL0aTeR View Post
    the only thing that sucks about that, is you have video of what was stolen and maybe who stole it depending on the garb of the intruder and the angle of camera... but doesn't stop them from stealing it... Also, they are already inside, so the battle (for them) is half over, and what you might get is a broken $500 camera system in addition to your crap getting jacked. whats needed is a deterrent, or levels of deterrents, because nothing is "theft proof" so we use theft deterrents. If the camera is in plain sight, however, THAT is a deterrent, which is why dummy cameras are sold, which is a fake camera with an LED light showing its operating... some of the more fancier ones rotate or sweep the room with their "lens".

    If i were to design something or suggest something, id say layer your deterrents..... Put valuables in the heavy safe that is also bolted to the floor, and have a security system installed.
    Some of the larger safes have a hole in the back for a dehumidifier's power cord. They also have holes to be bolted to the floor...

    I have to share a 3 car garage with 2 other people, while i don't keep my tools in it (they're in the kitchen actually), i keep my bike and other storage in there. This is mainly to keep that stuff under watch, as my neighbors could leave their door open and someone could make off with my stuff.

    I work in the apartment industry, i move often. 5 times in the past 2 years. An ADT system would be cost prohibitive with the installs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202 View Post
    Some of the larger safes have a hole in the back for a dehumidifier's power cord. They also have holes to be bolted to the floor...

    I have to share a 3 car garage with 2 other people, while i don't keep my tools in it (they're in the kitchen actually), i keep my bike and other storage in there. This is mainly to keep that stuff under watch, as my neighbors could leave their door open and someone could make off with my stuff.

    I work in the apartment industry, i move often. 5 times in the past 2 years. An ADT system would be cost prohibitive with the installs.
    yeah, my uncle's has a dehumidifier in it. That sucks about having to move so often, and i wasnt thinking about an apartment issue, most of the work i did was on privately owned residences. You are definitely limited on what you can install, but the process of layering deterrents is still there. Ive seen some radio shack door alarm systems that arm with a key and act on magnetic feilds, that when broken send an ear shattering sound into the air. Ive also seen similar ones made of steel which are priced higher, but are harder for the criminal to silence once they go off. these are usually mounted to the door with the magnetic opposite mounted to the jamb with 2 screws each or double sided tape. you can put the same things on the window, but they dont work if the window is broken unless the glass thats holding the opposite falls away from the unit. simple security stickers are often enough to deter a crook.... even though it might be a fake sticker, crooks find easier targets, or a more sure thing, kinda like when they see an unlocked car as opposed to a locked car..... of course they go for the unlocked. There is still a ton of low cost options, creativity is good.....

    Wulf, correct me if im wrong, but you came down from denver and bought my AK and 22 right?

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    I know it sucks. At least bolt it down and get one of these.

    http://www.stopthecrime.com

    In the old days it would be a mouse trap, fishing line, 2x4 and 12ga OO buck but since the population kind of frowns on that now-a-days......
    I see you running, tell me what your running from

    Nobody's coming, what ya do that was so wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    I know it sucks. At least bolt it down and get one of these.

    http://www.stopthecrime.com

    In the old days it would be a mouse trap, fishing line, 2x4 and 12ga OO buck but since the population kind of frowns on that now-a-days......
    nice!

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